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As our newly elected Church leadership is tasked with working through the thorny legal, HR, contractural, donor base, financial issues that make the theology of this evolution vs creation conflict perhaps seem the least of their concerns — let us lift them up sincerely in prayer!

These are the times that will try mens souls…will folks be bought or sold…will they remain true to duty as the needle to the pole?

I am reminded of the betrayal scenario that Judas entered in to against the World’s Savior…and how even for him there was a chance to be saved right up to the end; and his final decision was made. We need to pray for those who are in the valley of decision on all of this –> Evolution vs Creation WILL be the backdrop for THE ultimate decision about Creation’s Memorial Day.

The 1925 Scope’s Monkey Trial is looming ever so large these days….there William Jennings Bryan lost it as he failed to connect the consequential dots as Clarence Darrow pinned him into the “theistic evolution” corner and against the plain 24 hour / 6 literal day “thus saith the Lord” from Scripture. And American education has been sliding down this slippery slope ever since….

And now here we are!

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PUC responds
I found as I circulated throught the various university exhibit booths at the 2010 GC Session in Atlanta, that a significant number of them were going out of their way to distribute clearly stated literature that demonstrated THEY were NOT inline with LSU’s teachings.

This was especially true of SAU, Union, SWAU, AU, OAU.

I stopped in LSU booth & had a personal conversation directly with their president. He was artful at trying to put a happy face on LSU & the controversy. But an unambiguous affirmation of a literal 24/6 contiguous Creation was glaringly absent from his words, and any literature they had there.

Why the foot-dragging? If they TRULY support Bible Creation account + Flood account, why not just come out & say it clearly & unequivocably? ALL controversy would be laid to rest in an instant.

Reminds me of the artful dodging Lucifer exercised in Heaven as he misled 1/3 of the Angels!


PUC responds
I appreciate the dialogue by all on this. I want to point out 3 salient things:

1) Most times, especially in official news releases, as much is said by what is not addressed, as what is actually said.

2) If we want to know why all of this is dragging out & taking so long to get official decisions & actions, I would walk down the hall to the legal department & knock on the door – if you understand my hint?

3) The old adage – follow the $ money $ trail to the truth – is likely as valid in this situation as at any other time….(donor support issues; lawsuit issues; grants & loans issues; outside funding issues; contractural pay issues; etc., etc)

Our beloved Church & all leadership especially need our prayer support as we near the edge of the greatest storm of human history soon to be upon us….Evolution WILL be a dominant catalyst to initiate this greatest storm! Creation and Creation’s “Memorial Day” WILL be the dominant theme / test of choice during this greatest storm!

We are living in the “outer bands” now as it is rapidly maturing, deepening, approaching!


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La Sierra University Resignation Saga: Stranger-than-Fiction
@Wesley Kime:

A brother to brother thank you to both Charles & Wesley for your encouragement…by the way, you two together makes “Charles Wesley” who happens to be a great historical soldier of Christ!

Well…the likes & dislikes…I know it’s a somewhat limited communication medium here, no non-verbal, no feedback. So perhaps folks don’t fully understand what’s being said, in some cases.

Nevertheless, it really goes back to “the heart” of the matter…which is our loving + just Savior is examining ALL hearts to ascertain who truly wants to be with Him in Paradise…and who truly will be happiest there and not allow iniquity to rise up a second time.

So in my humble estimation, even our simple “clicks” of like / dislike here on Earth register our moment by moment choices that resonate through the Most Holy Place to help make the ultimate case of our total life choices, all overseen by our dear Jesus who sees our true intent & motive behind even simple “clicks”, and is still interceding for a little while longer….


La Sierra University Resignation Saga: Stranger-than-Fiction
@Faithful Disciple:

Absolutely Faithful Disciple. Thank you for clarifying that principle that we are each called to “stand up for Jesus” … I love the inspired words, “men who will not be bought or sold…as true to duty as a needle to the pole”.

I believe that our loving & just God, who will by no means clear the guilty, is at this special before probation closes moment, looking deep into current beating hearts for motive, for loyalty, for intent. We too must examine ourselves to see if we be in the faith – a genuine / authentic to the bone loyally loving commitment of purposeful obedience to Jesus Christ & genuine cherishing of & joining with His most precious possession on fallen Earth – His Church.


La Sierra University Resignation Saga: Stranger-than-Fiction
This incredible irony of 4 liberal California “Adventists” getting caught doing what their liberalism says is oh so “right in their own eyes” – serves as a sobering and humbling reminder to us all:

Gal 6:7,8 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

The mocking of God the Creator that has gone on at LSU…the mocking of God’s humble servant, Ellen White…the mocking of God’s chosen leaders (reminds me of the fate of some boys mocking Elisha)…the mocking ridicule of our special health message by their drinking…the mocking of the Bible truth that we will all be held accountable for every idle word that proceeds from our mouths….

God is absolutely IN CONTROL! He mercifully allows His law of cause –> effect to play out time and again. No one wrestles against mere flesh & blood. We reap what we sow, end of story.

Let us pray for these who’ve been so self-deceived, lest any of us also fall. Let us pray for our church leaders that they will draw courage to make righteous decisions surrounding this. Let us pray for the students & faculty of LSU, that somehow a revival of true Godliness will sweep the enemy back in California. Before probation closes and all mocking ceases…all reaping commences.


What does it take to be a true Seventh-day Adventist?
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him who knows to do good, and does not do it, to him it is sin.

To “know” you have to have mature enough moral awareness of right & wrong. You have to have actual knowledge & comprehension of facts about what is right & wrong & why. Clearly God Himself is the only adequate Judge of this “knowing”. Therefore we leave all salvation judgments to Him alone.

While it is entirely true that a baby “conceived in sin” is not knowingly guilty of sin. Nevertheless, that child (all of us) was born sin-separated from God and therefore in need of a Savior from conception on. And that Savior HAS BEEN PROVIDED for all children and all who are living up to the light that they “know” and are capable of “knowing”.

We’ve got to allow our merciful & loving Heavenly Father latitude here to perform as Judge Advocate General — who will also by no means “clear the guilty!”

Perfect Justice! Righteousness and Peace have “Kissed each other” in Jesus Christ our Savior / Advocate.


AAA to examine LSU

As I posted last night on another thread (Taking a Cue from Adventist Education), SWAU was apparently looking for these two Elijahs a year ago. SAU failed to hire two or three last year as well. You folks are simply delusional if you think the Church is going to cough up these individuals and the ones needed to replace all the evilutionists that you are trying to root out here. Delusional. With a capital “D.” And your wonderful website, with its wonderful approach, won’t make these SDA positions any more inviting for applicants–I’ll guarantee you that.If you want to destroy our universities, keep the stories and comments coming.  (Quote)

Pro Kent, that is patently absurd: I will counter that if our universities are THAT vulnerable as to be able to be destroyed by factual comments & stories of substance, then they aren’t supported by righteousness in the first place.

The SDA Universities doing what is right by God have nothing to worry about — HE will sustain them. Truth has no fear of error. Never has, never will – end of story!