BobRyan: The verdict is already in on that pont. The …

Comment on Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’ by Ron Stone M.D..

BobRyan: The verdict is already in on that pont. The SDA denomination is one of the fastest growing denominations in America while many others are stalled or declining according to a recent survey.The fact that anyone who upholds some unpopular stand on truth will be falsely accused as being mean spirited and unchristian is a well documented fact of Bible history and world history.Hence the high level of complaining on this site a by a few members who don’t like the 3SG 90-94 statement.But that should not be confused with accusations of actual “substance”. The SDA denomination is not growing via compromise but rather via its distinctive teaching. Why go to a small denomination cookie-cut from the same mold as a larger one if you already enjoy the larger one?One of our key distinctives is the 7th day Sabbath of creation week as found in Gen 1-2:3. To imagine that we must flake away from that position in order to be accepted and grow, is to miss the point of the survey results.in Christ,Bob

You’re exactly right, Bob. Most people join the SDA Church because we have something we actually stand for, in contradistinction to many other so-called “Christian” denominations.

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Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’

Bill&#032Sorensen: Just as a side note, Cliff also takes the same view of those who deny 1844 and the Investigative Judgment.We could wish all our leaders would be as definitive as Cliff is on these issues and demand some accountability in harmony with the biblical norm to deal with these issues.Bill Sorensen

Accountability is sadly lacking out here in SDA California. When you ask leaders to actually be accountable, they act like they never heard of the concept!


Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’
Cliff Golstein is one of the few SDA leaders who knows how to “tell it like it truly is” with “no-holds barred” honesty. He is “trashed” by progressives because if this, in many ways, as he mentions himself.

If we only had dozens or even hundreds of actual bible-believing leaders like him! [edit]


Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’

Shane&#032Hilde: To my knowledge, nothing that evolutionary theory claims about origins has been observed today. Evolutionary biologists are merely interpreting the data based on their antibiblical presuppositions.

I believe you are correct, Shane. The “origin” of life from nonlife cannot be seen or reproduced. We do not see significant changes in living organisms other than variations of innate genetic patterns–bigger, smaller, wider, different colors, etc

The fossil record does not support Darwinian mechanisms for evolutionary change. The long-awaited “missing links” have not appeared.

Mathematically, there is not enough time in the entire “history” of even what evolutionists say is the age of the world to account for the types of changes necessary for the variations of life to have “evolved.”

So, what DO we have? Nothing but pure speculation, theorization, and faith-based philosophy.


Recent Comments by Ron Stone M.D.

The ANN Highlights LSU’s Dr. Lee Grismer – An Evolutionary Biologist

Faith: Prof Kent:How do you figure that this site keeps biology profs with integrity out of LSU? Any professor that is following the Bible, supporting creation, and the SDA church has nothing to hide and nothing to fear.When you say “quality” applicants, just how do you judge their credentials?As far as I am concerned, it is far more important that these professors have a firm grasp on the teachings of creation and the teachings of the Bible than any credentials the world can offer. If that had been the criteria used as a guideline for hiring, we wouldn’t be in this mess now. And that goes for all our SDA institutions.

I agree, Faith. However, the type of leadership (Guy,Geraty,and Wisbey)LSU has had over the past two decades shows why we have evolutionists teaching “evolution as fact” at LSU and those supporting any type of creationism being intimidated, both students, and I would suspect faculty as well.

Does the LSU Board even care about this deterioration in our biblical beliefs. Well, their inaction, ineptitude, and apathy in finding any solutions tell me they don’t, at least the majority who control the Board.


Private Recorded Conversation Prompts La Sierra Resignations
BTW, If you’re a beer or ale drinker, the best are the “darker” and more “robust” varieties, as these have more antioxidants and phytochemical.

Or, you could just eat some oatmeal, barley, or similar whole grain!


Blasphemy of a Different Kind

Shane&#032Hilde: @Ron Stone M.D.: I agree. LSU has not been a shining light for our church. That’s unfortunate. That might be the case for other schools as well.

I have much more knowledge of PUC, and it has as many or more problems as LSU, although these have been, so far, ignored by most. PUC thrives on its “high ratings” from U.S. News and World Report, etc. But, it would get much lower ratings if someone knowledgeable from an SDA rating agency actually did a thorough investigation of the school.


[6/17/11 UPDATE] Two administrators, one biology professor, and one board member resign

Adventist&#032kid: @Ron Stone M.D.:Continue to believe that if you want. Not a scientific sample to say the least, but I just asked roughly 80 high school graduates from this year whether they chose which school they were going to or if their parents did. I didn’t even get ten who said their parents limited their choices or prevented them from going to their first choice.

I’ll continue to believe what I actually see and hear, not some biased opinion from you.


[6/17/11 UPDATE] Two administrators, one biology professor, and one board member resign

David&#032Bee: @Ron Stone M.D.: Tenured professors have a formal protective process before they can be terminated. Both resigned possible from their tenured positions as well.

Do you know this or just a guess? I certainly hope they’re gone from LSU completely!