I agree. In the end we (the Seventh-day Adventist Church) …

Comment on Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’ by Shane Hilde.

I agree. In the end we (the Seventh-day Adventist Church) believe that God created the heaven and earth in six days in the recent past.

La Sierra biology professors deny this and taught theories contrary to it as fact, while suppressing the evidence that confirms what we alread know to be true from the Bible.

One reason why they deny the biblical account is because the Bible is no longer the ultimate authority. Their world view is not being governed by the Word of God.

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Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’
To my knowledge, nothing that evolutionary theory claims about origins has been observed today. Evolutionary biologists are merely interpreting the data based on their antibiblical presuppositions.

Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’
Adventist kid,

You need to define what type of science you’re referring to. Origin science or operation science? I would assume since we’re speaking of origins that you woud be speaking of origin science, which uses different methods of determining what happened in the past. Origin science relies on relics from the past and historical records to try to discover truth.

The debate about origins is not about operation science, which is based in the present. The debate is about origin science and conflicting assumptions, or beliefs, about the past.

Perhaps you don’t understand the problem with saying “evolution is science, but the Bible is religion.” Molecules-to-man evolution is not proven by operation science; instead, it is a belief about the past based on antibiblical assumptions.

Creationists and evolutionists accept and use the same methods of research in both origin and operation science. The different conclusions about origins arise from different starting assumptions, not the research methods themselves.

So this isn’t about religion vs. science, but conflicting worldviews.

The revelation of nature is in harmony with divine revelation; however, our interpretation of nature must be guided by divine revaltion.

Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’
It’s unfortunate AR is only letting subscribers read the whole article. I dropped my subscription some months ago.

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ADvindicate has also published an article about LSU and Raul Diaz that expands on a few details.


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@Eddie: The Bible does not specify an age of accountability (to my knowledge), but the Israelites considered the age of 12 to be the turning point. I wouldn’t base a theology off of tradition though. Also, it’s not our place to judge what happens to those who have not been able to make a decision.

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@Blodgett: Was there a comment you’d like to add?

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@David Read: And perhaps not something Christ would do. I can understand your frustration though. I’ve been on the verge of quitting this whole thing many times. I’ve been guilty of letting that frustration control and influence things I shouldn’t have said.

I have to remind myself to look at the big picture. In the end all those who are not supposed to be in the church will be sifted out. I pray I am not one of them.

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I know from talking to a couple of reporters from Press Enterprise and Inside Higher Ed that Randal Wisbey was effective in shutting down communication between any outsiders and the biology faculty. It appears he made himself the only channel of communication between the board and biology faculty.

I emailed Larry Becker about what bylaw the board members broke that was worthy of dismissal, and I have yet to hear a response from him.

I would also note that board members at other universities appear to be free to talk to the faculty.

Another interesting point. He removes three board members for trying to work on the problem and come up with a solution, and then turns around sort of embraces what they’re doing. He can’t publicly condemn it because everyone can see, whether you agree with what they wrote or not, that it’s a significant step for the faculty to be speaking to the church.

Did he forbid the document from being published? No. If you’re really excited about seeing the biology department making advancements in solving the issue, why are you removing the people who are making that happen. He never did anything like that.

What has Wisbey done to address and fix this issue? Nothing. He’s dragged it out, lied about what’s been happening, and told everyone involved to shut up or get in trouble. What on earth is he trying to do?

Who knows, he might even be a part of the underground movement to sever LSU from the church by using WASC as the big hammer. It’s obvious from one former board member, there was interest in using WASC to manipulate the situation.