Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’
@Shane Hilde:

If you want to read the whole article, do a Google search for “Clifford Goldstein, A Safe Place”. The article has been posted in a couple places outside of AR…

Clifford Goldstein: ‘A Safe Place’
I am in full agreement with my friend Cliff. The SDA Church should be a safe place for members who are struggling with evolutionary concepts and other theological issues to be able to ask and work through difficult questions without being judged on a moral basis or excluded from the Church community.

At the same time, as Cliff points out, our Church also needs to “be a safe place for our students.” It is indeed “heart-wrenching to think that, on occasion, young people in our Seventh-day Adventist colleges face teachers who, though professing to be Seventh-day Adventists, hold a view on evolution that nullifies that profession.”

So, while it is fine to have struggles over the meaning of mainstream science vs. the Biblical worldview, it is not fine to publicly promote, while on the payroll of the Church, various views on mainstream science that directly undermine the stated fundamental goals and ideals of the Church. Such activity is not a sign of a personal struggle, but of a dishonest struggle against the order and government of the SDA Church as an organization (i.e., in thinking to get paid while undermining what one was hired to do).

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
Thank you for your kind words and support. I really appreciate it very much!

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
I’m fine with open dialogue, but that includes presenting and at least understanding things from the GC’s perspective and why the significant majority of SDAs and GC delegates believe that the GC did the right thing during the pandemic and with the original 2015 statement on vaccines.

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
So, it’s impossible to be a doctor who promotes the best of modern medicine as well as the best natural remedies and still be a follower of Jesus? Really? Not even Ellen White could be saved then…

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
If the human immune system were the “perfect mechanism” that God originally designed it to be, you’d be right. However, after ~6000 years of sin and decay, the human immune system is no longer what God originally designed it to be – as evidenced by the great many, even among healthy vegan SDAs, who died during the pandemic. Water and light therapies are great and are helpful as layers of protection, but for many, especially those over the age of 65, whey were not enough. The mRNA vaccines were very effective in providing an additional much needed layer of protection during the pandemic. Now, I’ve very glad that you did not get sick enough to require hospitalization and that you avoided long-term injuries and death during the pandemic, but many many others were not so fortunate.

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
Yeah, I think you’re right…