Bill Sorensen: We go on and on. The final conclusion is …

Comment on If the Creation Account Isn’t True… by Charles.

Bill Sorensen: We go on and on. The final conclusion is this. Those who believe the bible is the final authority will always make science fit the bible.Those who hold science above the word will always make the bible fit science.You can not resolve this conflict. You can only identify it and accept the conclusion.Do you think you will convince the “Dr. Taylor’s” of this world who hold science above the word of God?Not unless you can convince them the final locus of authority is the bible. In that case, you must “prove” the validity of the bible before you can “prove” anything by the bible.So, perhaps at this point, we are “beating a dead horse.” Just a thought.Bill Sorensen

Well said, Bill. There are an abundance of those who do not accept the validity of scripture over science. AND, they have that right. But not to come into the SDA church and sow tares of such teaching within our ranks – and especially upon our children. The true SDA faith takes Scripture as ultimate and final authority and “science” must be subject to it. AND, there are plenty of brilliant scientists who see no conflict there.

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If the Creation Account Isn’t True…
I think this week’s Sabbath School lesson is awesome and right on target. This quarter’s lessons are mostly contributed by “Jo Ann Davidson”, Professor of Theology at Andrews University.

For those here who do not study the Sabbath School lessons, I’d like to share a couple of paragraphs from The Heart of the Creator (Monday, Jan 9 lesson)

“Think of how mother birds lovingly prepare the nest for their babies. Then, picture them hovering over their babies, bringing them food, and teaching them how to fly. Moses, who had taken care of sheep for 40 years, must have seen this natural phenomenon happen each spring, and it must have made him think of God’s tender care. Under inspiration, he pictured the same emotions in the Holy Spirit’s heart as our human “nest” was being constructed.”

Everything in the Creation account, then, in contrast to the various evolutionary models–which depict our Creation as the work of forces violently competing with each other–reveals a God who loves His creation, who cares about it, and who purposely and carefully designed it. There’s nothing impersonal about the creation, nothing emotionless, nothin purposeless. Love was there at the start of the Creation week. What a contrast to evolution, which teaches that love somehow emerged only after billions of years of selfish violence. Love motivated the Creation, and love will be there when this damaged version of Creation is createded anew.”

Thank-you Jo Ann, for clearly stating the true Adventist position so simply and understandably.


If the Creation Account Isn’t True…
P>So, the teacher asked, “If your parents were morons, what would that make you?”“I’d be a evolutionist.”

Yes, I smiled as well.

In reality, evolutionists are not morons. Just brilliant misguided brothers and sisters who need to listen to the “still small voice.”


If the Creation Account Isn’t True…
@Ken:

I am being honest, Ken, my friend.

How does “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy…” become “Remember the day of the sun, to keep it holy…”? There is no real or credible dispute as to the definition of which day is which.

How does Genesis 1 & 2 which lays out six “evening and morning” days followed by the seventh “sanctified” day, become long eons of time? (Consider that today, the whole world – including YOU – DOES observe the same seven day weekly cycle – a phenomenon which is powerful testimony to the literal scriptural creation week.)

How does “He spake, and it was done. He commanded, and it stood fast…” become “He did some amazing things in his natural laboratory”… “He put the evolutionary process into motion…”? (Or whatever.)

Is this interpretation?

Either you believe the scriptural account or not. No need to “interpret” most of scripture.* It is there for the simplest of us humans to read and understand. But if I choose NOT to believe, I should just make that choice and not attempt to re-mold the scripture into saying something that it does not say.

*True, much of scripture does include prophecy in cryptic language. But that can be clearly understood as well, through deep and prayerful study. The keys that unlock the symbolisms are also clearly found in scripture.


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It was an event that changed the world in ways that top-down powers would yearn for.

No point in speculation… I think Veith probably was mistaken to do that deep dive and it seems that he has quietly backed away from it.

The thing we must focus on is to “Turn your eyes upon Jesus….” Clearly, we are in “the last days”.


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There is a great “conspiracy” – otherwise known as “The Great Controversy”. It is the ultimate reality of our rebellious little world today. AND it is the foundation of all of these other problems we deal with.

AND, IT WILL BE ENDING SOON!


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