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Ron, Would you please direct us to the reference in EGW’s writings that says we will have to give up or significantly change our distinctive beliefs.

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Ron, we are still waiting for that EGW quote that says that we are going to change our Fendamental Beliefs. Have you found it yet?

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Holly, I’m sure that LLU university church has people who hate SDA beliefs. Probably every SDA church in the country has someone who hates our beliefs to a greater or lesser degree. That is what the shaking is for, to correct that problem.

What LLU, LSU, and all of the college and university churches have that is disturbing is that they are teaching our young people. These PhD’s who have questioned themselves out of believing our Bible doctrines are dragging impressionable young people with them.

People like Erv and his Adventist Today(sic) crowd would have us all believe that it takes a PhD to understand the Bible, and that the Bible is very fuzzy and open to many interpretations. That allows them to use their intellect to decide what it really means. They can then reshape and discard our beliefs one at a time.

What they don’t seem to remember is that the Bible is written for ALL people and Jesus more than once pointed out that the simple really “got it” while the educated were the ones that were wrong. The Holy Spirit is the expositor of Biblical truth for all of us, not PhD’s.

In order not to be misunderstood, I do need to make a disclaimer. Not all of our professors are bad. We have some stellar minds and great teachers who are loyal to our church and its beliefs. Unfortunately they get are affected by the bad apples in their (our) midst too. Some of the finest Christians I’ve ever known have been faculty members that trained me. Perhaps they should be the one’s that lead us through these hard times.

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Preach the truth Faith!

“The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.

Who has authority to begin such a movement? We have our Bibles. We have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth?” Ellen G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 1, pages 204, 205.

“The days are fast approaching when there will be great perplexity and confusion. Satan, clothed in angel robes, will deceive, if possible, the very elect. There will be gods many and lords many. Every wind of doctrine will be blowing. Those who have rendered supreme homage to “science falsely so called” will not be the leaders then. Those who have trusted to intellect, genius, or talent will not then stand at the head of rank and file. They did not keep pace with the light. Those who have proved themselves unfaithful will not then be entrusted with the flock. In the last solemn work few great men will be engaged. They are self-sufficient, independent of God, and He cannot use them. The Lord has faithful servants, who in the shaking, testing time will be disclosed to view. There are precious ones now hidden who have not bowed the knee to Baal. They have not had the light which has been shining in a concentrated blaze upon you. But it may be under a rough and uninviting exterior the pure brightness of a genuine Christian character will be revealed. In the day time we look toward heaven but do not see the stars. They are there, fixed in the firmament, but the eye cannot distinguish them. In the night we behold their genuine luster.”

     “The time is not far distant when the test will come to every soul. The mark of the beast will be urged upon us. Those who have step by step yielded to worldly demands and conformed to worldly customs will not find it a hard matter to yield to the powers that be, rather than subject themselves to derision, insult, threatened imprisonment, and death. The contest is between the commandments of God and the commandments of men. In this time the gold will be separated from the dross in the church. True godliness will be clearly distinguished from the appearance and tinsel of it. Many a star that we have admired for its brilliancy will then go out in darkness. Chaff like a cloud will be borne away on the wind, even from places where we see only floors of rich wheat. All who assume the ornaments of the sanctuary, but are not clothed with Christ’s righteousness, will appear in the shame of their own nakedness.” Ellen G. White, 5 Testimonies pages 80-81

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Thanks Phil! We do need to draw together right now, but not under the banner of error. It is time for the nonsense to stop. None of us are the judges, so we cannot kick anyone out of the church, but we can discern truth from error and LOUDLY AND UNAPOLOGETICLY proclaim truth. I am pretty sure the shaking part will take care of itself. It is our job to study and share the truth with others, dedicate our lives to Jesus, and serve. I believe that conditions will cause the rest to happen automatically. Those who are “culturally” or only half dedicated to the truth of Adventism will run like marathon runners when it is politically incorrect to be an SDA.

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Faith, great post, thanks. Let’s not forget that at the time of Jesus’ first advent, there were faithful church members who were studying and waiting for the messiah (Simeon and Anna). And let us also not forget the parable of the 10 virgins where half of the virgins were prepared with oil, but asleep (connected but distracted). They entered into the wedding feast because they had made the necessary prior preparation and could enter the feast when the bridegroom came.

Let’s not suggest that there are not prepared people. God always has a remnant (even if liberals/progressives hate the idea). The vast unprepared multitude (those on the wide road to hell) cannot eclipse the bright shining few (on the narrow upward road). God’s church will win, just as the Bible predicts. I’ve read the end of the Book!

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Adventist Kid, the only people lacking integrity of recent (and glaringly so), is Bradley, Beach, Kaatz, and Darnell. Shane has nothing to gain from this whole matter. He doesn’t work for the church. He has nothing to gain from this, except a headache that Motrin won’t fix. He (and many others) is (are) just tired of you liberals and progressives trashing our church and its beliefs and trying to drag everyone else down with you. ENOUGH! It is time to bring the SDA church back to faithfulness. It is time to finish the work Jesus gave us.

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Former Student, you are right that we should guard our words. The Bible requires it and we are accountable for them. That should not be construed as your post seems to infer that we should not stand up against error. We MUST stand up against the evil that is creeping into our church. It could be deadly to our children. We are responsible to lead our children to salvation. Our church set up our educational system to help train our children in the ways of the Bible, and to serve humanity. Unfortunately evil and error has crept into our colleges and universities. As parents, we MUST clean up our educational institutions to protect our children. That might take some truthful, firm, and persuasive language. But it will be honorable and Biblical.

We must not fall into the trap that says to follow the Bible means that we have to be silent and weak!

LA SIERRA: Four resign after recording emerges
Adventist Kid, the conservatives are not lurking around every corner in the shadows recording and collecting data to publish. If the Infamous 4 did not want their private discussion to be known publicly, then they should have not spread it around to become public. There are many faithful SDA’s that are tired of the nonsense and are going to finally work to get our church back on track and back to the purpose of providing a positive alternative to this world’s evil.