@Concerned Adventist: God has given us all the gift of …

Comment on LSU student: ‘Apostates or Apostles’? by Shane Hilde.

@Concerned Adventist: God has given us all the gift of reason, and when we allow the Holy Spirit to lead our reason we can come to an understanding of truth. This is the mechanism by which we understand the Bible to be true and reliable. God will provide us the evidence we need to rest our faith. Notice what Ellen White says in Steps to Christ page 105:

God never asks us to believe, without giving sufficient evidence upon which to base our faith. His existence, His character, the truthfulness of His word, are all established by testimony that appeals to our reason; and this testimony is abundant. Yet God has never removed the possibility of doubt. Our faith must rest upon evidence, not demonstration. Those who wish to doubt will have opportunity; while those who really desire to know the truth will find plenty of evidence on which to rest their faith.

There are plenty of examples in the Bible where God gives evidence of his word. Yes, faith does come from God’s Word, but before a person can come to the place in their life where they believe that, they must have good reason to believe. God doesn’t ask us to believe in something for no reason at all.

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@Professor Kent: Try not to post four times in a row.


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This only 4% biz is shear non-sense. According to their enrollment at the beginning of the year (2,098) that means only 84 students take general biology or are biology majors?

That’s boloney. When I took general biology there were at least that number just in my class. It had to be in a stadium seating classroom to fit everyone. I could be wrong on this but I think general biology is a required GE course. I was an English major and I had to take it.

Don’t take everything LSU PR spits out hook line and sinker.

Have you been over at Spectrum? You’ll find enough over there to qualify for ridicule.


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