Javier G.: The “big talk little substance” folks in the “little …

Comment on LSU, Pacific Union Conference and North American Division Sued by Holly Pham.

Javier G.: The “big talk little substance” folks in the “little right tent” have nothing of substance to contribute at Spectrum–which is why you got yourself kicked out there.

Javier, Although you accuse ET of being “little” we seem to have the support of the vast majority of worldwide adventists, not Spectrum or AT. Minorities usually claim to need a “critical mass” to influence policies of the majority, but Spectrum and AT see their masses getting smaller as a percentage of our worldwide church.

Look at the history of groups like Spectrum, AT, and Kinship. Decades of harrassing our church and they still can’t get enough of our members to support them in order to influence policies to any significant extent.

Kinship even had to have their speakers remain anonymous at their recent meeting last week in the Los Angeles area. They also had to sneek into the GC meeting in Toronto under a false name. That’s how much influence they have in our church, despite being around for over three decades.

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I will ask this question again. Since the tape was not illegal according to California law, why is it illegal to actual read, publish, or discuss it?

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Why don’t you simply accept reality, rejoice in it, AND MOVE ON to something more productive — like maybe something that God may want each of us to be doing with our lives to actually help spread His message of love and redemption to a fallen world . . .

Although I am a neophyte in the law, I can read the law, and it says “intentionally” thus I believe the recording is not illegal. Anyone with a different view may give their interpretation if they wish. But, so far, nobody has given a different interpretation.

I am also doing what you say we should do–helping spread the Gospel over the world. I can do both at the same time.

Please be sure that I will not be moving on, as I am being very productive in what I am doing here and in other places.

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Jim: Holly said:“I hope the tape is released . . . I believe it will be an embarrassment to La Sierra and to the La Sierra Board, who hired them.”I’m pretty sure this is exactly the approach Jesus would have you take . . . yikes, you show such a loving, redemptive spirit towards fellow fallen humans and church institutions. (By the way, each of the three individuals has served LSU for a minimum of 30 years or more . . . no one serving on the LSU Board had anything to do with their hiring; at least try to get your facts straight.)Unlike you (and a few others), Shane has realized the very real potential legal jeopardy involved in publishing any aspect of the recording, in either written or audio form. Why do you think he quickly pulled the information from his website once he received professional legal advice?For yet one more time, the contents of the recording are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, even if you inappropriately tried to make it your business by listening because of your own prurient interests. The situation is being handled by those who actually should be dealing with it, even if some of the actions taken so far have been less than ideal.

I believe the information on the tape should be the business of all churchmembers who have an interest in how La Sierra is being run. Why don’t you want the information heard? It’s because it is extremely embarrassing to all who have supported the liberals at La Sierra.

If you don’t want to listen, that’s fine with me. Just let the rest of us gain the facts and truth about what this situation is all about.