Comment on La Sierra Academy students weigh in on creation/evolution debate by Shannon.
The funny thing about it is just be a impressionable mind for a second:
I science teacher tells you, “These are the facts: life evolved through time, and it involved a process of survival of the fittest group or individual and the more sickly or weak were culled out or simply eliminated due to genetic weakness thanks to what science likes to call natural selection. Now, we know this happened a very long time ago and because I work here at LSU, I believe God was behind it and He loves you and you should love everyone too. Please?!”
And then the student goes to the religion department and the impressionable student has a teacher that says, “I believe that God made the world through creation cause he said it and I am a believer and I have not done any research on the subject (Really, they don’t say this. A lot of them say the other and some say they believe in creation and God with good reason but I’m just trying to keep it simple.). Just follow Jesus cause it is a belief thing.”
Now if this student is a logical and impressionable young mind, he or she will realize that natural selection states that someone will have to win in the end and that selfish means are not always bad–the world was built on them and love is not the governing principal after all. Somehow–an Adventist Evolutionist if they realize this problem will always have a dichotomy as the Bible clearly states to love but the basis of evolution is domination of the group or individual or even the gene.
These teachers make a big impression and for scientific minded students it is huge. . . especially if it is one sided. Luckily, I am sure there are not just the one sided debate that I have envisioned but neither are the science teachers of little influence. They are neat people that have a huge influence–mine did and thank God that they were good people with high goals and values as well as the way they taught because they did have a big impact of my life.
It is just not a 50/50 input science and religion–for some students, it is a science teacher that will help them come closer to Christ and for others a religion teacher. We need all the tools at our schools working for our young people–why don’t we get it. Are we willing to sacrifice any, just for the sake of looking like we are more like a public school?
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Carl and Sean,
Great summary Sean!
Carl, I do not think that Sean’s point is that he was trying to prove 6000-10,000 years. He was trying to decided which was more tenable–the traditional Biblical understanding of Genesis or the more Evolutionary from a Scientific perspective. Given the evidence, he feels that the weight is further from the ultra long–both take as certain amount of faith in the end. You just start with having to decide between the 2 ideas–Short or really long–I don’t think that there is a third choice religiously or scientifically out there at this moment.
My feeling is that it is always going to be nice to see some evidence but in the end, you will have to decide in faith. That is what you will do with the science or with the religion. Right at this time, I think we are all going to have to chose if we are going to make a religion out of science or not. If not, I think we better stick with what the Bible says and it is pretty straight forward to me. Then, it will always be nice to get a little back up from the science but we don’t have to.
PS–The Bible advises not to sleep with your neighbor’s wife. If society said otherwise, and 99.9% of experts said it was okay, would you do it? Some things we just will get wrong.
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Shane: Thank you. You comment was better worded than I could have explained.
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Michael: When you become an apostle or prophet–you can write letters–long ones– of discipline with strong language even as necessary. A lot of people use this as the norm to be able to talk to strangers and acquaintances the same way they would discipline their children when they have not established any status for this or knowledge for the other party to base any ability to judge or respect. More than likely the other will react negatively. This is not the case for the majority of us and will not be. When or if you obtain leadership in our church this may change for you but until that time you may not be able to instruct as such. The funny thing about the internet is that there is no way of telling as I said before so you have to assume the other person has no idea so the best to do is act as such with kindness and explanation.
Examples: “Where do I begin?” “poor bible student and quite ignorant of church history.” “Really?”
Maybe, maybe you were just being just a little defensive. Do you think the evolutionists will go any easier on you? Especially if you are trying to tell them they are of the devil.
Your quote of Timothy with exposure of sin before the church to reduce the chance of having it happen again–how would you go about that if you were in charge. I know a personal friend that had that happen to them–they left the church for many years–they were brought before the church and asked to confess their sin before the whole congregation at church. Yes, it was a sin. There was no 2 ways about it. So in front of a church filled with people a 16 year old girl told how she got pregnant out of wedlock! It is this type of misinterpretation of scripture that hurts people, their understanding of God and our church! Sin has to be handled and removed correctly–a leader should have the responsibility to confess to the church a public issue or sin. A 16 year old with a private sin may best need to deal with a few people at a time and specifically confess and ask forgiveness to the family she lives with and maybe the one of her significant relationship.
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Justin: You are obviously biased. I’m sorry you see it that way. I did use the Bible and did not insinuate that Micheal did not know what he was talking about. I’m glad you are happy about being right though. It is nice to feel that way. . . .
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Michael: You have no idea who I am or what my education is. The internet on a discussion site is no place for long explanations and arguments. Basic quotes and beliefs are simple for explanation or understanding. More will not get the job done in this format. Making judgments as to education and ignorance is usually comparative and not too accurate. My statements were made on the other hand off of your ongoing aggressive and demeaning use of wordage in our discussion and discussion with others that don’t happen to agree with you.
You may find that the world will all be much less smart that you if you use agreement with you as the criteria. There are a lot of people that use this as a criteria by the way and I have been treated badly by many of them. Some of them are probably much smarter that you and me put together. Just because of that does not make them right or any more believable.
Respect truly comes as a result of the ability to be respected.