Comment on Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict by Ricky Kim.
This comment is in response to the resolution made up above that I find to be deeply disturbing: We define creation science in the context of the recent creation week of seven ordinary, literal, historical, consecutive, contiguous twenty-four hour days of divine creation and rest as described in Genesis.”
I must ask, has it never occurred to the brilliant mind of Elder. Ted or to the other Adventist believers to consider the following notion: that the sun, moon, and stars were not created until the 4th day of the creation week. In which case, if this in fact is true, how can one logically argue for the position that the first 3 days were literal twenty-four hour periods, when in fact it could have been a thousand or perhaps a million years? Do we not use the celestial bodies to determine our concept of time and space? It seems that the verses describing the Creation are not to be taken literally but more figuratively, allow me to explain. On day one we have the creation of light and darkness, on day two the separation of the waters, and on the third the creation of land. The things that are created on the preceding days are to be those things that inhabit the created space. The sun, moon, and stars are to inhabit the light and darkness. The birds and fish are to inhabit the sky and sea. The animals are to inhabit and roam the land. One must also consider the historical use and influence of the Babylonian creation myth “Enuma Elish” that the Jews employed during the Babylonian exile to conceive the creation account found within the book of Genesis.
Please understand, my comment is not intended to offend or dissuade fellow readers. But a mere inquiry that is open to hearing responses. I eagerly wait to hear word. Thank you.
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Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
Well gentlemen,
This certainly has been an interesting dialogue,
and I must thank each of you for allowing me to play the devil’s advocate.
And leaving notes upon my various comments. Very enjoyable indeed. However, a quick injection I wish to make.
Enuma Elish or the babylonian creation myth seems to share similarities with the Genesis account. Considering that its creation myth is older. I wanted to ask what are we to make of this? Did God inspire the Babylonians with some truths? And if so, can we consider that all religions lead to one God? And if not, how seriously are we to take the narrative of Genesis. Which also has 2 perspectives of creation. Verse 1 & 2?
Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
“We can easily agree with Ricky that once you toss the Bible out the window – belief in evolutionism (no matter how irrational and unscientific it is) is just about all that is left.”
Mr. Bob,
I don’t know how you can dismiss evolution as being irrational and unscientific-I mean religion teaches that a talking snake existed, alongside a burning bush, and men rising from the dead.
To say the Jesus rose from the dead, or preformed the various miracles that is told has happened based on scripture suggest that the natural order of things, of how the earth operates and still continues to operate till this very day has been suspended and has leaned on your favor. Tell me, what is more likely? that the natural order of things has indeed been suspended, or everything that is “miraculous” is not very miraculous at all?
But this again, will fall into conflict do to how we see the Bible.
Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
Mr. Stone,
I don’t understand your usage of the terms “liberal” and “fundamentalist”.
Believe me, if you followed everything the Bible says-you would be out stoning the homosexuals, killing the witches, etc…
Everyone pick and chooses passages from the Bible.
You can’t be 100% objective about it, because the moment you read it you already are interperting it in your own unique way.
