A PS: follow on comment to my previous post. I think …

Comment on Dr. Geraty clarifies his “Challenge” to literal 6-day creationism by Ken Wiseman.

A PS: follow on comment to my previous post.

I think of this EVIL / SIN major factor as like the most unwelcomed and insidious presence of cancer within a body.

You observe from the origins, and the body is amazingly perfect, capable, fantastic! Then the cancer shows up…and in fairly short order, you end up with unbelievable corruption of, mutation of, destruction of, extermination of this amazing body with it’s harmony of function and form.

There’s a twisted horrific take over by the cancer cells in such a way as you end up with pure destruction of what once was a beautiful chain of evidence that demonstrated a most wonderful original creation….

And so we find ourselves in the sin/cancer/evil of this world, with no demonstrable trajectory towards “survival of the fittest” that seems to be ending up just better than ever before due to some progressive evolving.

It’s getting worse and worse folks, in the big scheme of things.

World-wide nuclear destruction capable.
Pandemics loom.
Earth life forms being destroyed rather rapidly.
Sea, air, land pollution at record levels.

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Dr. Geraty clarifies his “Challenge” to literal 6-day creationism
I’m not a scientist, although I studied much science in my high school and college days (once was on the path to marine biology). I am a professional pilot who also happens to hold a graduate degree in theology.

I accept science & it’s findings as a reasonable HUMAN LIMITED attempt to explain things, but I also know enough from personal observation (in legitimate Darwin fashion), to be able to recognize THE MAJOR FACTOR that can totally account for any apparent discrepancies as well as seeming incompatibilities between faith and science.

That simple, but observable & provable major factor is the clear and present existence of EVIL / SIN.

We accept cause and effect. We must be prepared to allow for the Law of Condemnation, IF we believe there is a God and He has Law and consequences.

Simply put: Sin / Evil has grossly corrupted “the chain of custody” of nature’s creation evidence, and has in ways we cannot fully account for, mutated, speciated, variated, and even exterminated MUCH of the evidence to the point that there are plenty of hooks available to hang your hat of doubt upon!

And we aren’t even talking about the Flood, and what monumental effects IT can have upon this gross corruption of evidence. But the Flood was initiated by God as a result of “only evil continually”….Grave food for thought…..Brings this all full circle.

Below is some very helpful thought guidance on these matters of evolution and creation.

By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. Ps. 33:6. {FLB 27.1}
Since the book of nature and the book of revelation bear the impress of the same master mind, they cannot but speak in harmony. . . . {FLB 27.2}
Inferences erroneously drawn from facts observed in nature have, however, led to supposed conflict between science and revelation. . . . Millions of years, it is claimed, were required for the evolution of the earth from chaos; and in order to accommodate the Bible to this supposed revelation of science, the days of creation are assumed to have been vast, indefinite periods. . . . Such a conclusion is wholly uncalled for. {FLB 27.3}
Of each successive day of creation, the Sacred Record declares that it consisted of the evening and the morning, like all other days that have followed. {FLB 27.4}
In regard to the work of creation itself the divine testimony is, “He spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.” Ps. 33:9. With Him who could thus call into existence unnumbered worlds, how long a time would be required for the evolution of the earth from chaos? … {FLB 27.5}
It is true that remains found in the earth testify to the existence of men, animals, and plants much larger than any now known. . . . But concerning these things Bible history furnishes ample explanation. Before the Flood, the development of vegetable and animal life was immeasurably superior to that which has since been known. At the Flood the surface of the earth was broken up, marked changes took place, and in the re-formation of the earth’s crust were preserved many evidences of the life previously existing. . . . These things. . . are so many witnesses mutely testifying to the truth of the Word of God. {FLB 27.6}
Just how God accomplished the work of creation He has never revealed to men; human science cannot search out the secrets of the Most High. His creative power is as incomprehensible as His existence.

Chap. 13 – Taught by Nature

But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this? Job 12:7-9. {CC 19.1}
Although the earth was blighted with the curse, nature was still to be man’s lesson book. It could not now represent goodness only; for evil was everywhere present, marring earth and sea and air with its defiling touch. . . . {CC 19.2}
In drooping flower and falling leaf Adam and his companion witnessed the first signs of decay. Vividly was brought to their minds the stern fact that every living thing must die. Even the air, upon which their life depended, bore the seeds of death. {CC 19.3}
Continually they were reminded also of their lost dominion. Among the lower creatures Adam had stood as king, and so long as he remained loyal to God, all nature acknowledged his rule; but when he transgressed, this dominion was forfeited. The spirit of rebellion, to which he himself had given entrance, extended throughout the animal creation. . . . {CC 19.4}
But man was not abandoned to the results of the evil he had chosen. In the sentence pronounced upon Satan was given an intimation of redemption. . . . This sentence, spoken in the hearing of our first parents, was to them a promise. Before they heard of the thorn and the thistle, of the toil and sorrow that must be their portion, or of the dust to which they must return, they listened to words that could not fail of giving them hope. All that had been lost by yielding to Satan could be regained through Christ. {CC 19.5}
After the transgression of Adam, God might have destroyed every opening bud and blooming flower, or He might have taken away their fragrance, so grateful to the senses. In the earth seared and marred by the curse, in the briers, the thistles, the thorns, the tares, we may read the law of condemnation; but in the delicate color and perfume of the flowers, we may learn that God still loves us, that His mercy is not wholly withdrawn from the earth. {CC 19.6}

Recent Comments by Ken Wiseman

What does it take to be a true Seventh-day Adventist?
It’s simply AMAZING to see how often God’s perspective gets validated by the evolutionists and those who align with such:

Because the thing which may be known of God is clearly revealed within them, for God revealed it to them. For the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being realized by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse. Because, knowing God, they did not glorify Him as God, neither were thankful. But they became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man, and birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves. For they changed the truth of God into a lie, and they worshiped and served the created thing more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. – Romans 1:19-25

Professed wise guys who are actually total fools! Evolutionists have validated the Creator God’s pronouncement over & over & over. Ironically enough – reading this sort of foolishness, even here on this site can provide true faith & loving trust in one’s Creator God! Some words from EGW reminds us as the “foolishness of this world” intensifies towards the end – we must gather warmth from the coldness of others! Amen to that! Doing it with each evolutionary foolishness post!

Last point: If a bad guy busts into liberal evolutionists home intent on evil & mahem, there’s exactly TWO things that liberal evolutionist is going to do: 1) Call a guy with a gun to come & save them; and 2) PRAY to the Creator God that the guy with a gun gets there in time…END OF STORY!

What does it take to be a true Seventh-day Adventist?
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him who knows to do good, and does not do it, to him it is sin.

To “know” you have to have mature enough moral awareness of right & wrong. You have to have actual knowledge & comprehension of facts about what is right & wrong & why. Clearly God Himself is the only adequate Judge of this “knowing”. Therefore we leave all salvation judgments to Him alone.

While it is entirely true that a baby “conceived in sin” is not knowingly guilty of sin. Nevertheless, that child (all of us) was born sin-separated from God and therefore in need of a Savior from conception on. And that Savior HAS BEEN PROVIDED for all children and all who are living up to the light that they “know” and are capable of “knowing”.

We’ve got to allow our merciful & loving Heavenly Father latitude here to perform as Judge Advocate General — who will also by no means “clear the guilty!”

Perfect Justice! Righteousness and Peace have “Kissed each other” in Jesus Christ our Savior / Advocate.

La Sierra University Resignation Saga: Stranger-than-Fiction
@Wesley Kime:

A brother to brother thank you to both Charles & Wesley for your encouragement…by the way, you two together makes “Charles Wesley” who happens to be a great historical soldier of Christ!

Well…the likes & dislikes…I know it’s a somewhat limited communication medium here, no non-verbal, no feedback. So perhaps folks don’t fully understand what’s being said, in some cases.

Nevertheless, it really goes back to “the heart” of the matter…which is our loving + just Savior is examining ALL hearts to ascertain who truly wants to be with Him in Paradise…and who truly will be happiest there and not allow iniquity to rise up a second time.

So in my humble estimation, even our simple “clicks” of like / dislike here on Earth register our moment by moment choices that resonate through the Most Holy Place to help make the ultimate case of our total life choices, all overseen by our dear Jesus who sees our true intent & motive behind even simple “clicks”, and is still interceding for a little while longer….

La Sierra University Resignation Saga: Stranger-than-Fiction
@Faithful Disciple:

Absolutely Faithful Disciple. Thank you for clarifying that principle that we are each called to “stand up for Jesus” … I love the inspired words, “men who will not be bought or sold…as true to duty as a needle to the pole”.

I believe that our loving & just God, who will by no means clear the guilty, is at this special before probation closes moment, looking deep into current beating hearts for motive, for loyalty, for intent. We too must examine ourselves to see if we be in the faith – a genuine / authentic to the bone loyally loving commitment of purposeful obedience to Jesus Christ & genuine cherishing of & joining with His most precious possession on fallen Earth – His Church.

La Sierra University Resignation Saga: Stranger-than-Fiction
I would like to leave with this group of thinkers a spiritual lesson God has been trying to teach this hard head of mine….

Recalling that clear text – “we will give an account for every idle word” – have we stopped to consider how much we ought to pray carefully & be exceeding cautious about what we put on down in WRITING on these internet sites? I mean, many employers now do Facebook / Twitter research before hiring folks; law enforcement is finding the internet to be one of their greatest resources for indictments & proof of law breaking…..

How much more should we expect our loving, just, God who will by no means clear the guilty, to use these posts we place in cyberspace for all time & eternity!

Sober food for thought. Reminds me of what CS Lewis said: “There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’”

Blessings to each one – we each are stewards of a life JESUS saw fit to die for. We will all answer for our stewardship…and that includes internet postings.