Bravus, You seem to have some sort of mental block when …

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Bravus,

You seem to have some sort of mental block when it comes to understanding the concept of a maximum time constraint. The evidences I’ve listed for you are maximum, not minimum, time constraints. They aren’t evidences for old ages, but for an upper limit on age – – see the difference?

In other words, these maximum limitations strongly argue against mainstream thinking using their own uniformitarian assumptions which simply do not agree with certain laws of physics. Given a catastrophic scenario, these features could easily be explained within a 10kyr time frame… and some features, as noted above, can only be explained within such a short time frame.

Also, you seem to be spouting off quite a bit about stuff you evidently haven’t read much of anything about. If you do much reading at all on this topic, it is quite clear that mainstream thinking had dated the Himalayan mountain orogeny at around 50 million years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalayas#Origins_and_growth

Therefore, a reduction in this age by over 20 fold is quite a dramatic error range for the dating methods used and seriously calls into question their reliability and general usefulness.

One more thing, if you actually know of some sort of solution to the detrimental mutation rate problem for slowly reproducing creatures, I’d be most interested. Please do present some actual data next time instead of just making stuff up off the top of your head as you seem prone to do so far…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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Are LSU professors breaking the 8th commandment?

David Kendall, BMus, MA says:

Hi Shane,

I am not sure you can make a strong connection between the statement in the excerpt and common ancestry. DNA research does point to varying degrees of relatedness among species. This does not have to conflict with a recent six day creation, though some may make the argument that it must.

What it argues for, and what Grismer clearly believes, is the idea that all life is related through process of common descent by innumerable tiny modifications from a common ancestor life form – a process that required hundreds of millions of years of time.

This notion strikes directly at the concept of the relatedness of all life because of its source in a common Designer of all the basic “kinds” of life on this planet, produced during a literal 6-day creation week in recent history.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


Are LSU professors breaking the 8th commandment?

Ron Nielsn: @Sean Pitman M.D.: Sean, I am not a geologist, and I haven’t read much about this, but your argument doesn’t make logical sense. Where does the sediment that is “washed off” go, except down slope, and as long as the uplift is equal or greater than the erosion rate, there is always going to be sediment at the top  

Your argument assumes that all rock is sedimentary rock – it isn’t. Only a thin layer of sedimentary rock covers the underlying granitic or metamorphic rock. So, the obvious question is, how has the very thin layer of sedimentary rock avoided being completely washed off of the underlying non-sedimentary rock if it has in fact been exposed, as an erosional surface, for tens of millions of years?

You do see how the argument for continued mountain uplift does not solve this problem? – right?

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


Are LSU professors breaking the 8th commandment?

BobRyan: Thus evolutionists who quickly admit that molecule-to-human-mind evolutionism (storytelling) requires “a massive DECREASE in entropy” as the net result over billions of years (at the local isolated system level of course )– are leaving themselves with no place to go.

Not true. A local decrease in thermodynamic entropy is possible using the Sun’s energy to produce the local effect (at the expense of an increase in the Earth-Sun thermodynamic entropy of course).

Recall that in the case of the dropping ball, and the iron rusting and the water evaporating — the definion for “universe” that was needed to observe those examples demonstrating entropy was simply “an isolated and localized system and it’s immediate surroundings” EVEN if that system is standing out in broad daylight (or in complete darkness). No need to “reach for the sun” before you can see the increase in entropy as iron oxidizes. Speaking of “oxidation demonstrating entropy” – our biology courses admit to that oxidation process as well.  

You forget that the reverse of all these processes you use as examples of increases in local entropy can be reversed as well, by using energy derived from the Sun. The ball can be driven uphill, as can the water in the rivers that run downhill. Therefore, local reductions in entropy can be achieved by using the increase in entropy of the Earth-Sun system…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


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