Ron: @Holly Pham: “All living things have a certain limited …

Comment on Walla Walla University: The Collegian Debates Evolution vs. Creation by Holly Pham.

Ron: @Holly Pham: “All living things have a certain limited capacity to “adapt” “change” or “evolve” to a change in their environment. I don’t know anyone who denies that, since it can be seen today.”Ok, so I think I am picking up some agreement here with Darwin. Things do evolve; or change if you prefer, at least in the here and now, SINCE creation, and “within certain limits”. I mean, if you were to look at Darwin’s finches, you would see the different shaped bills, would you not? And that wouldn’t destroy your faith.That doesn’t mean that you agree with EVERYTHING Darwin said. There are limits after all. But if I am right, you and he at least agree on that much. Now there are some things that are attributed to Darwin, that you obviously disagree with. I am wondering if you can be a little more specific as to where the boundaries are. What kinds of changes are possible to believe in and still believe in god as a creator, and what kinds of changes would force you to abandon the notion of a creator?

On the contrary, the burden is on you to show how small changes, such as adaption of a bird’s bill, can lead to the change of magnitude that Darwin said could account for in the diversity that we see in the world today.

Scientists have been working on this for many decades, with no mechanism that can be demonstrated to explain how organisms can change from one type of “kind” (as explained in the Bible) to another type or kind.

Please show how you scientifically can explain it to us. The Bible states all living thing procreate “after their kind” which is what we see in today’s world.

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Walla Walla University: The Collegian Debates Evolution vs. Creation

BobRyan:

Great answer, Bob. What we don’t see is what evolutionists want us to believe is really happening today and has been happening for millions of years. They can’t show it, show an actual functional mechanism for it, but still believe it has happened and is happening. What a wonderful fairy tale!


Walla Walla University: The Collegian Debates Evolution vs. Creation

Faith:
Shining:

How could anything be more clear?Only those who want to be blind can not see the light in this statement.

Those who choose to believe men’s philosophy over God’ Truth do not appear to be blind but have chosen the wrong “path” as Jesus stated in the Bible.


Walla Walla University: The Collegian Debates Evolution vs. Creation

Sean Pitman:
@Ron:

Then you haven’t read much of what Mrs. White wrote.She did indeed advocate removing people from the SDA church who no longer supported its primary goals and ideals… who refused to do what they were being paid to do.She even recommended cutting ties with Battle Creek college when it started opposing the church’s position on various issues (Link).

Sean Pitman
http://www.DetectingDesign.com

Well stated, Sean. The idea that we should accept and sit idly by while [some] attack our SDA Church from within is supported by those who wish to destroy our Church from the inside. And we have many, especially out here in California, who are eagerly and in some cases successfully doing it.


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