@David Read: There is nothing wrong with believing despite an …

Comment on The Heroic Crusade Redux by Sean Pitman.

@David Read:

There is nothing wrong with believing despite an absence of evidence; there’s everything right with it.

I suppose there’s nothing wrong with believing in the Flying Spaghetti Monster if you really want to, but, without some actual evidence, what’s so “right” about it?

This appeal to empirically blind faith is part of what so frustrates the likes of Richard Dawkins. And, to be honest, I do sympathize with Dawkins in this particular point.

A faith that has the power to give rational people the courage to stand under heavy fire, at the risk of the loss of health and life, has always been backed up by a great deal of solid evidence.

For example, the disciples of Jesus did not gain this type of faith until they were given the evidence of the bodily resurrection of Jesus. Not until this empirical evidence was clearly demonstrated before their very eyes did they achieve the faith it took to build the foundations of the early Christian Church.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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@Ervin Taylor:

I notice that on the EducateTruth(sic) site, when Sean posts something, he always gets a lot of “likes” and when I post, I get a lot of “dislikes.” I wonder why that is? Is it his greater logic? Is it his more pleasant personality? On the other side, why all of the “dislikes?” Do I offend? But I already use a lot of deodorant, but perhaps it is not enough. I will try to use more in the future and see if that helps.

Perhaps you can take comfort in the fact that if the very same comments were posted at Atoday, Spectrum, Talk.Origins or Pharyngula, or any other forum inherently opposed to the Adventist message, the voting would be, and has been, dramatically reversed. Your comments would be ever so popular while mine would be voted down in mass.

Consider also that your common use of the term (sic) comes across as a form of derision… as in an effort on your part to make fun of EducateTruth (sic) and all that we stand for here at this website.

Sic—generally inside square brackets, [sic], and occasionally parentheses, (sic)—when added just after a quote or reprinted text, indicates the passage appears exactly as in the original source…

The use of sics can be seen as an appeal to ridicule, whether intentional or not, because it highlights perceived irregularities. The application of sics with the intent to disparage has been called the “benighted use” because it creates a “false sense of superiority” in its users.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic

I suppose it’s fine to try to be humerus or even disparaging in one’s efforts to address errors in the arguments of one’s opponents. Just don’t expect such efforts to go over well with those who don’t already agree with your own perspective.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


The Heroic Crusade Redux
@Ervin Taylor:

As for senility . . . . What did you say your name was?

Elvis 😉


The Heroic Crusade Redux
@ken:

“I’m a schizophrenic and so am….I”

😉


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