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Comment on Scott Ritsema, Dr. Lela Lewis, Pastor Wyatt Allen an Dr. Peter McCullough on COVID-19 Vaccines by Sean Pitman.

I don’t mind someone speaking their mind, even if I disagree with them. My issue with Scott Ritsema in this particular video of his, and it’s a very minor issue, is that he complains when others don’t present both sides of a story, but then fails to do so himself. Now, if he just straight up said, “Hey look, I’m only going to present one side of the story here because I feel that the other side of the story has been overrepresented”, then fine. I’d have no problem with that at all.

Now, as far as your claim that the COVID-19 numbers and deaths have been falsely increased, that just not true either. I can’t speak for your personal experience, but I personally work in multiple hospitals and known many doctors around the country as well. There just isn’t this medical conspiracy to inflate COVID deaths like you claim. If anything, the COVID deaths in this country have been underreported. How can I possibly say this? Because, as noted already in another comment, the overall “all-cause” death rate in this country spiked back in March of 2020 way way above background levels. What on Earth caused such a spike in the all-cause death rate at this time? – a spike in deaths that goes well beyond what has been directly attributed to COVID-19? If not for the COVID-19 pandemic, what else has killed off more than 600,000 people so far in this country alone (3.9 million worldwide)? – beyond what would usually be expected? (Link)

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Scott Ritsema, Dr. Lela Lewis, Pastor Wyatt Allen an Dr. Peter McCullough on COVID-19 Vaccines
First off, it’s Dr. Marcum, not “Marcus”. Secondly, the “natural immunity” he speaks of was the result of getting infected by the COVID-19 virus. Sure, the antibodies against COVID-19 that his immune system produced after his infection are helpful in preventing future infections with the alpha variant, but, unfortunately, not so much when it comes to the delta variant (Link). The fact of the matter is that the best and safest way to educate the human immune system to effectively resist the delta variant is via the mRNA vaccines. Why on Earth people believe that getting infected by the COVID-19 virus is somehow safer than exposing one’s immune system to a tiny inactive part of the virus is beyond me. Upon what rational basis do you believe this? Where is your scientific evidence or medical mechanism for this notion of yours?

Now, this doesn’t mean that I’m at all opposed to the Adventist Health Message. Since the very beginning of this pandemic I’ve promoted good health, diet, exercise, vitamin D, etc as a great place to start to improve one’s immune system (Link). Unfortunately, however, for many this just isn’t enough. I have very good SDA friends who live very strictly according to the Adventist Health Message, yet they still got very sick and many died. Even some young SDA friends of mine in their 30s and 40s who didn’t die almost did die and some have permanent injuries from their COVID-19 infections.

The problem is that the COVID-19 virus attacks the lining of blood vessels throughout the body, even for many very good and very healthy SDAs. This results in long-term injuries and organ damage – to include damage to the lungs, heart, and even the brain. It can even permanently reduce your IQ (Link).

Regarding Revelation 18:23, in particular, the term “pharmakeia” is best translated as “sorcery” here. There is no intended advice at all against modern medicine in this passage. What, are you suggesting that medications like antibiotics to treat bacterial infections or insulin to treat diabetes are evil “sorceries”? Again, such arguments only make the Christians who say such things look sensational and irrational – which puts the Gospel Message itself into a bad light for those who are considering following Christ. (Link)

This isn’t to say that vaccines are without risks. As with pretty much everything in life, the mRNA vaccines have various known risks, including a very very small risk of death. Of course, these risks are all very minimal compared to the very same risks for getting infected by COVID-19 – which are much much MUCH greater with the COVID-19 infection than with the vaccines. The odds of dying due to an mRNA vaccine are less than the odds of getting hit by lightning! The same cannot be said for the odds of dying and/or getting permanent serious injuries from a COVID-19 infection. The odds of death from COVID-19 double for every seven years one is older than the age of 20. By the time you’re over the age of 75, your odds of death are 32 times greater than someone in their 20s. I have spoken to the various relative risks of the vaccines in this forum many times. It’s not like I’m trying to hide anything. I want all the cards to be on the table. Why would I want to hide anything? The unvarnished truth is, again, that even though there are real risks to vaccines, these risks are minimal compared to the much MUCH greater risks of getting infected with the actual COVID-19 virus – when it comes to every single type of risk one can imagine (Link, Link). You mention “heart inflammation” in young men, for an example. And, that’s indeed a real risk of the vaccines. However, this risk is minimal at around 1 in 200,000 – with no deaths or evidence of long-term injury resulting from this particular type of risk (Link). Compare this with the risk of myocarditis from getting infected by the actual COVID-19 virus at around 30%. That’s right, around a third of otherwise healthy young people who get infected by COVID-19 will get heart inflammation (Link). Again, the risk of COVID-19 infection far FAR outweighs the very same risk for the vaccine. This is true for every other valid risk that you or anyone else can list.

Why then would you choose to expose yourself and those close to you with the much riskier option that is available to you?

Regarding censorship, I’m not a fan of government censorship of free speech. While I do agree that misinformation on this topic is, in fact, killing people, I also believe that free speech is fundamental to this country and to the very fabric of our society. That doesn’t mean that I have to provide a platform, however, for speech that I consider to be dangerous. The same is true for others who provide platforms for various forms of conversation. They are also free to promote whatever they want on the platforms that they own.

In any case, I have yet to see a medical or scientific argument coming from you that I can actually understand as offering some reasonable support for your claims or that effectively undermines anything that I’ve said in favor of the mRNA vaccines. Really then, what do you have as a solid empirical basis for your position? – beyond your personal feelings? – or your appeals to various authority figures who are making claims that you personally haven’t investigated as to their actual scientific basis? Do you have any scientific background or medical training or understanding at all? Where is your weight of empirical evidence that might help a pathologist like me actually understand the validity of your position?


Scott Ritsema, Dr. Lela Lewis, Pastor Wyatt Allen an Dr. Peter McCullough on COVID-19 Vaccines
Yeah, well, it might help to actually understand the primary data one is looking at before one makes up his/her mind… which Dr. McCullough clearly doesn’t understand – particularly when it comes to the meaning of the VAERS data.


Scott Ritsema, Dr. Lela Lewis, Pastor Wyatt Allen an Dr. Peter McCullough on COVID-19 Vaccines
If you’re going to just present one side of an issue, just do that. Don’t bother citing your “academic” credentials and history of “always” trying to present a balanced perspective. And, don’t complain about others, like the mainstream media, doing the very same thing that you’re doing – presenting only one side of an issue.

Beyond this minor point, have you nothing of real substance or interest to say about the actual primary claims being made? about all the scientific data that appears to strongly counter the sensational claims that Dr. McCullough’s presented in this video?


Recent Comments by Sean Pitman

Dr. Walter Veith and the anti-vaccine arguments of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche
I’m a hematopathologist (I study and look at blood under the microscope for a living) and I can tell you that you’re completely mistaken in your claim that the mRNA vaccines “change the molecular structure of blood cells” or that they look any different than normal under the microscope. That’s simply not true, nor is there any mechanism whereby this notion of yours might remotely be true. Please, by all means, tell me where you got this nonsense…

As far as Veith presenting both sides of this particular conversation regarding COVID-19 and the mRNA vaccines, that’s not true either. He’s just not being even-handed here. Of course, I’m not being even-handed either. I clearly have a bias in that I am strongly in favor of the vaccines as a very effective and safe way of enhancing one’s ability to fight off the COVID-19 virus without serious harm being done to the body.

As far as encouraging people to eat better and live according to the Adventist Health Message, I have done this many times – in this forum. I’ve studied healthful living and nutrition extensively and I’m a big fan of the Adventist Health Message in particular. I was one of the very first to promote various Adventist Health principles and the use of Vitamin D to fight COVID-19 before the vaccines were available (Link). And, I do indeed believe that if put into practice that it could save many lives as well during this pandemic (Link). However, it just isn’t enough for many people. Many good Adventist friends of mine who were otherwise very healthy and living according to the Adventist Health Message have been killed by COVID-19 – despite their excellent health prior to their infections. These were generally older (older than 65 years of age). However, I’ve also had many young and very healthy Adventist friends of mine (vegan, athletic, ect) also get seriously sick and end up in the MICUs of hospitals for weeks at a time with blood clots throughout their bodies, some ending up with permanent life-long injuries to their bodies.

So, while the Adventist Health Message is great and wonderful and all that, it is best to do it all. It is best to live according to the Adventist Health Message AND to take the mRNA vaccines as well. This offers a person the very best advantages when it comes to most effectively fighting off the COVID-19 virus with all of its variants. After all, if you believe that you’re healthy enough to survive a COVID-19 infection without any serious injuries to your body, then you’re way more than healthy enough to do very well with the mRNA vaccines. Why on Earth do you think that the vaccines are actually more dangerous than a full-blown infection with the live virus? – with the virus self-replicating like crazy inside of your own body? – attacking your blood vessels and organs throughout your body? That’s somehow safer than getting a vaccine that only exposes the body to a single protein for a short period of time? How does that make any sense to you whatsoever?

The same thing happened in Mrs. White’s day. Despite having the Adventist Health Message, she approved of her own son and her own staff getting the vaccine against smallpox – and there is good evidence that she was also vaccinated against smallpox herself. Why? Because, although a very good start, sometimes the human body needs an extra boost beyond a “good diet and exercise” to most effectively fight against various diseases. Mrs. White also approved of the use of quinine to fight malaria for missionaries working in malaria-stricken regions of the world. She approved of blood transfusions to save lives and even radiation therapies to treat tumors. She simply wasn’t opposed to the more reasonable advances of medical science in her own day.

Again, while a “pill or a shot” is usually not the best place to start (since healthful living can remove the need for the vast majority of pills and shots), there are indeed times when a pill or a shot can give the human body the best chance at survival and health in a given situation – where diet and healthful living alone simply aren’t enough.


COVID-19 and Vaccines – Update
As I’ve asked others, why do you think that the overall “all-cause” death rate in the United States, and around the world, suddenly spiked in March of 2020 if this pandemic we’re in is really no big deal? – if the death rates have been so exaggerated as you claim? If not for the COVID-19 pandemic, what else has killed off more than 600,000 people so far in this country alone (3.9 million worldwide)? – beyond what would usually be expected? (Link)

I’m sorry, but Dr. McCullough is basing his position off of a false interpretation of the VAERS data (maintained by the FDA and CDC by the way) and false interpretations of a few other papers as well, which he evidently doesn’t understand.


Dr. Walter Veith and the anti-vaccine arguments of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche
And I suppose you believe the claims by your “experts”, like Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, that the vaccines make people “magnetic” too? Please…

How many millions of $ do you think Dr. Tenpenny makes selling her conspiracy theories to gullible people each year?

“It was estimated that Tenpenny took in nearly $250,000 CAD from course fees. Nowhere in her official testimony was it explained that she derives up to $2 million per year from spouting misinformation online.” (Link)

I could do the same thing and retire a wealthy man. But, I’d rather tell the truth and actually try to help people maintain their health and even their lives. Sure, it may be hard for those who have little to no medical background to understand the benefits of the mRNA vaccines against COVID-19. However, the truth is that the benefits do in fact far far outweigh the risks. Yes, all vaccines have risks. However, these risks are minimal compared to the risks of getting infected by the COVID-19 virus during a pandemic. And, it’s not just about you. It’s about protecting others around you in your community and even around the world. Be a wall instead of a link that enables this virus to keep spreading to more and more people – many of whom will end up dead and many more with long-term injuries.


COVID-19 and Vaccines – Update
Hi M_____,

I hesitate to respond to your latest E-mail (since I’ve already responded extensively to ____ on this topic). I must say, however, that both of you are sharing a great deal of misinformation. For example, you claim that the mRNA vaccines done in animal trials were a failure. While it is true that prior research on mRNA vaccines, starting some decades ago, did have trouble overcoming an effect called, “antibody-dependent enhancement” (ADE), this problem was actually overcome for the mRNA vaccine against the SARS-CoV-2 virus (Link). These modern mRNA vaccines underwent double-blinded placebo-controlled trials in both humans and animals with great success. There simply were no ADE problems – or any other high-risk problem. In fact, the mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 proved themselves to be far more effective than anticipated, and very safe – far far safer than exposing one’s self to the actual SARS-CoV-2 viral infection.

Yet, you cite the VAERS database as listing a host of vaccine injuries (co-managed by CDC and FDA by the way). Why is it, do you think, that the CDC and FDA make public the VAERS database? – if they are truly out to injure people with vaccines? You would think that, if these government organizations are truly evil, that they would want to hide this information – right? The problem with VAERS is that many people who promote conspiracy theories don’t understand how it works or its real purpose. Anyone can post pretty much anything to the VAERS database without any demonstration of a causal relationship between their symptoms and the vaccine they took – or anything else. So, what’s the point of VAERS? Well, it’s used to detect unusual patterns in large populations that should be investigated further (Link).

As far as the mRNA vaccines being “experimental”, that’s also not true. These vaccines have been studied for over 30 years now. Sure, they weren’t rolled out for general public use until a few months ago, but this doesn’t make them “experimental” in nature. They underwent extensive human and animal trials with great success. Over 70,000 human volunteers participated in these trials. And, since they have been rolled out to the general public, their success, and their safety, have been even further supported after observing hundreds of millions of vaccines given. As far as the FDA only issuing an “emergency use authorization” rather than full approval of the mRNA vaccines, this is because of the 6-month rule where a vaccine or medication must be observed during a trial period for at least 6 months before being considered for full approval. This is because the odds that something new or unexpected will be discovered beyond the six months of observation during trials are extremely low (given our extensive past experience with vaccines). Of course, now that these 6 months of observation have been met, Pfizer is planning on filing for full FDA approval by the end of this month (May 2021).

But what about the risk of blood clots that have been discovered? First off, this risk is quite rare and is associated with the DNA vaccines, not the mRNA vaccines. So, if one has the option, I would favor the mRNA vaccines over the DNA vaccines (Link).

By comparison, the smallpox vaccine that William White took, with his mother’s full knowledge and support by the way, along with his associates, was far far more risky. In fact, the smallpox vaccine is probably the riskiest vaccine ever made. In her day, about 1 person for every 1000 people vaccinated for smallpox for the first time experienced serious reactions/complications. Even by 1969 studies showed that out of every one million people vaccinated at least one will die due to vaccine complications. It is for this reason that:

“Scientists call it [the smallpox vaccine] the most dangerous vaccine known to man.” (David Kohn, The Most Dangerous Vaccine, CBS News, 2002)

Yet, she still approved of her own son William getting the smallpox vaccine even though he had been injured by a vaccine as a child. Why? Because, the risk of getting infected by smallpox was much much higher than the risk of the smallpox vaccine – even for those following the Health Message given to Mrs. White. Clearly, then, Mrs. White was not at all opposed to vaccines since she had her own children vaccinated and even supported them getting vaccinated as adults – despite having experienced a bad outcome with vaccines. Given all of this, I believe D. E. Robinson, the personal secretary for Mrs. White for 13 years, when he said that she was also vaccinated for smallpox at one point – and encouraged her own staff to be vaccinated as well. The common response that Robinson either lied or couldn’t remember the facts correctly (Link) seems like a desperate argument given all of the information we have of Mrs. White supporting the best of modern medical care and treatments of her day. She even supported the use of quinine to treat malaria (Link) and she recognized the advantages of anesthesia during surgery and the use of medicines to relieve the intense pain and suffering of the injured or sick (Link). She recommended blood transfusions when needed, despite the risks involved (Link) – and even had radiation therapy to resolve a skin lesion on her face (Link).

You yourself say that “there may be a place for a drug in an emergency situation”. Well, what do you call this pandemic we’re in if not an emergency situation? The conspiratorial claim that this pandemic is nothing but another “flu season” is nonsense. Well over 500k people died in this country alone within just one year because of this pandemic. The situation is the same worldwide. India is really suffering right now with many thousands dying every day of COVID-19. And, even for those who don’t die, up to 1/3 will develop long-term injuries called “Long-Hauler’s Syndrome”. This is true even for children (Link). Your own brother-in-law, Dr. Roger Seheult, has personally seen dozens and dozens of people die from this – the MICUs where he works packed with very sick people. I’ve seen it myself. People suffocate to death and their blood turns to jello. It isn’t an easy way to go. I’ve seen my local MICU filled with COVID-19 patients on ventilators. Over a dozen friends of my own family have died from this. This pandemic just isn’t “another flu season”. It just isn’t. I’d say that if there ever was an emergency situation, this is it! And, for those who say, “Well, I’m healthy and my personal risk from this pandemic is very low.” – what about your risk of transmitting the virus to someone else who isn’t as resistant as you may be? Are you Ok with the possibility of contributing to the injury or death of someone else? – when you had the opportunity to significantly reduce your own risk of being able to transmit this virus to others? For me, this played a big part in my own decision to get the mRNA vaccine against COVID-19 as soon as it was available to me. I considered it to be my Christian responsibility to my neighbors…

As far as citing Revelation 18:23 where the Greek word “pharmakia” is used, the best translation of this word is “sorcery”. It has nothing to do with the use of modern medicine. What, are you opposed to the judicial use of antibiotics for those who have a serious bacterial infection? – or the use of insulin for those suffering from Type I diabetes? As Ellen White once said regarding such things, “We are expected to do the best we can” (Link). Interpreting the Bible in the way that you’re suggesting here only makes Christianity appear sensational and irrational. This sort of thing simply doesn’t present the Gospel Message in an attractive light. Therefore, I strongly advise you to steer clear of such sensational conspiracy theories. Their promotion simply doesn’t help to effectively expand the Kingdom of Heaven.

All the best to you and yours,

Sean


COVID-19 and Vaccines – Update
“The Bible was inspired by God…. This isn’t so with the current antigovernment and anti-Vaxx conspiracy theories.” – Sean Pitman

AB: “Brother Revelation 18:23 mentions the pharmakeia that Babylon would employ to deceive the world at the end of time. The Bible and history are symbiotically linked. Prophecy is constantly pointing us to look at history for the fulfillment of its symbols.”

I think you make very shaky Biblical interpretations that aren’t what you claim them to be – certainly not with regard to some worldwide government conspiracy behind the COVID-19 pandemic. You’re making medical claims that are opposed to the significant weight of empirical evidence that we have in hand. Again, why ignore the significant increase in the all-cause death rate, starting in March of 2020, for almost every country around the world? – accusing governmental and even medical providers of collectively and consistently falsifying data? In reality, the evidence in hand isn’t just politically motivated here. It’s coming in from all over the place. Do you also not believe that India is having a huge problem right now with COVID-19? – with many thousands dying daily from this pandemic? Is that also some political conspiracy?

I’m sorry, but you’re being deceived here and it is harming your credibility when you promote such weak anti-government conspiracy theories. Don’t try to bring on the Time of Trouble before it’s actually here…

Regarding Revelation 18:23, in particular, the term “pharmakeia” is best translated as “sorcery” here. There is no intended advice at all against modern medicine in this passage. What, are you suggesting that medications like antibiotics to treat bacterial infections or insulin to treat diabetes are evil “sorceries”? Again, such arguments only make the Christians who say such things look sensational and irrational – which puts the Gospel Message itself into a bad light for those who are considering following Christ.