Although HCQ and Ivermectin are both FDA-approved drugs (but not …

Comment on Pastor Ivor Myers and Medical Panel Discuss COVID-19 and Vaccines by Sean Pitman.

Although HCQ and Ivermectin are both FDA-approved drugs (but not for the treatment of COVID-19), that’s irrelevant to the fact that scientific studies haven’t shown any significant benefits when it comes to the early treatment of COVID-19 (Link). That’s unfortunate, but that’s the reality of the situation. You can reference anecdotal stories all day long and that simply won’t overcome the scientific studies that have been done here.

Your claims about Sweden as a success story regarding COVID-19, although common, are also mistaken (Link).

Also, despite your claims, COVID-19 cases (Delta Variant) did show a dramatic spike in India between March and June (2021). Sure, the spike has declined since it’s high, but it’s not like India is out of the woods either (Link). Of course, the decline in cases in India, as well as the UK, is hopeful when it comes to the current US spike…

As far as Dr. Robert Malone being the “inventor” of the mRNA vaccines, that’s not exactly the full story either. Malone gets his credibility among the anti-vax and anti-COVID-vax crowd by calling himself the inventor of mRNA vaccines, which is a bit like calling a guy who worked on the combustion engine the inventor of space flight. The work was absolutely a milestone on the way to jet propulsion, and our ideating engineer probably hoped to go to the stars. But Malone wasn’t the only person working on mRNA, he wasn’t the only person to have the idea of an mRNA vaccine and, as of now, he hasn’t been working in that field of research for 30 years. (Link)

As far as social media platforms making rules that you don’t like (or that I may not like either), that’s the problem with living in a free country. Your freedoms aren’t the only freedoms protected here.

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The mRNA vaccine are now fully approved by the FDA (no longer under EUA). The technology itself is not “experimental” in any meaningful sense of the world since it has been around now for over 30 years with extensive use in other applications. The current use to produce a small part of the COVID-19 virus, the spike protein, to teach the human immune system how to fight the live virus better when exposed, functions in the very same way as traditional vaccines – and is highly effective as well as having very rare serious side effects. Those who cite VAERS don’t generally understand the purpose of the VEARS data system that is maintained by the CDC and the FDA. The VEARS system is not meant to establish causation, but rather to detect unusual patterns of correlation. This is a key misunderstanding for many people. As far as the human immune system is concerned, the fact is that the human immune system, while certainly amazing, isn’t perfect in this world and tends to degrade over time as we age. That is why vaccines have turned out to be such a God-given gift to humanity, having saved millions upon millions of lives. Also, historically, vaccine mandates are nothing new. Vaccines have long been required to work in various jobs, particularly as medical providers, and to attend schools around the country.

All that being said, I do agree that the current general mandates for the mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 will tend to be less effective compared to other methods… with the exception of those working in places like hospitals or nursing homes. Such medical providers working with the most vulnerable should be required to be vaccinated. For most other people, medical exceptions and even religious exemptions are still recognized and honored in this country.


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Dr. Veith is mistaken here because he’s listening more to conspiracy theories rather than looking at the weight of good scientific evidence.


Pastor Ivor Myers and Medical Panel Discuss COVID-19 and Vaccines
Well, a pandemic where a lot more people than usual are dying (I’ve personally lost many friends to this pandemic already) makes the discussion of vaccines a bit more urgent. Sure, preaching the Gospel is vital. However, you can’t preach the Gospel very well if you’re sick in the hospital or dead…


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I fail to see where you have convincingly supported your claim that the GC leadership contributed to the harm of anyone’s personal religious liberties? – given that the GC leadership does not and could not override personal religious liberties in this country, nor substantively change the outcome of those who lost their jobs over various vaccine mandates. That’s just not how it works here in this country. Religious liberties are personally derived. Again, they simply are not based on a corporate or church position, but rely solely upon individual convictions – regardless of what the church may or may not say or do.

Yet, you say, “Who cares if it is written into law”? You should care. Everyone should care. It’s a very important law in this country. The idea that the organized church could have changed vaccine mandates simply isn’t true – particularly given the nature of certain types of jobs dealing with the most vulnerable in society (such as health care workers for example).

Beyond this, the GC Leadership did, in fact, write in support of personal religious convictions on this topic – and there are GC lawyers who have and continue to write personal letters in support of personal religious convictions (even if these personal convictions are at odds with the position of the church on a given topic). Just because the GC leadership also supports the advances of modern medicine doesn’t mean that the GC leadership cannot support individual convictions at the same time. Both are possible. This is not an inconsistency.