11/1/11 Eddie Says: “Precisely! And the most effective means is to use …

Comment on Creeds and Fundamental Beliefs by Lydian.

11/1/11
Eddie Says:

“Precisely! And the most effective means is to use web sites such as this to publicly identify and vilify heretics, including friendly and unfriendly agnostics.”

Eddie–

We weak human beings cannot read another’s heart–Jesus could. So we need to be careful how we “judge” another human being. For all we know Ken (he is the only acknowledge agnostic I know of on this site) may be a lot closer to God than some of us who profess to be SDA Christians.

I have never known him to write one unkind word to any one nor respond in a harsh way to any unkind remarks thrown his way. That comes pretty close to “being like Jesus” in my estimation. I just wish I could say the same about every one of us who post on this site.

“Among the pitfalls of our life
The best of us walk blindly–
So, friend, be careful, watch and pray–
And judge your brother kindly.”

(This may not be quoted 100% correctly–I couldn’t locate my copy of it–but the thought is the same.)

So please let us give him the benefit of the and concentrate on the real danger to our church–those who teach and preach a “gospel” that is the exact opposite of what we, as a church organisation, believe.

I don’t care how deeply someone may believe in evolution–or any other doctrine that is contrary to our beliefs (and they are welcome to their beliefs) but it is downright dishonest to accept a pay check from us (or any other organization) while you do every thing possible to undermine what we (or they) stand for. That is known as “stealing”! And stealing is not a good character trait in anyone. (And, by the way, neither is “mud slinging!”)

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