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BobRyan: To Faith and Holly – thank you for those kind words. There are untold numbers of objective unbiased readers viewing these threads – many more than our TE friends would like to imagine.in Christ,Bob

You’re so correct Bob. Most SDA’s I speak to know “about” ET and support it, but the vast majority do not post anything or even “vote.” Why?

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BobRyan: The “mechanism” for creationism is observed every day. Intelligent designers create books, computer programs, works of art that rocks and gas will never produce no matter the times the blind-faith evolutionist utters their sacred mantra “beeeellions and beeeellions”.By contrast – the “mechanism” for evolutionism whereby static genomes acquire new coding genes such that the amoeba turns into the horse (after the appropriate beeeeellions and beeeellions is said over it) – has never been “observed in nature”.in Christ,Bob

Well stated, Bob. Intelligent being do create things. However, rendomness and blind chance don’t seem to.


Creeds and Fundamental Beliefs

Dave: The most beautiful three words in all of scripture are: “And God said”….That’s all I need to know. He said it. It is. Case closed. Just like the Bible says.

I agree. However, liberals and progressives have a different view. What the Bible says must be “interpreted” by each person. Thus, there must be millions of viewpoints on what the Bible actually “means” especially as it relates to our postmodern society.

The end result of this type of thinking is we become our own “gods.”


Creeds and Fundamental Beliefs

Ben B.: I agree with the article. Let’s maintain order and accountability in God’s church! We uphold the standard of God’s word in our church entirely. The church is to be the “pillar and foundation of the truth” (1 Timothy 3:16). The literal 7 day week from Creation, and the Sabbath are Bible teaching…plain and simple. It’s not merely some person’s conjecture. We have every right and necessity, as God’s people, and His church for the last days to UPHOLD the Bible’s true and clear teachings. If some individuals want to distort or misrepresent those Bible teachings, the church must, needs to, and shall hold them accountable. If they don’t like it, they can go start their own church of “so and so says” religion, and mix whatever kind of philosophy and heresy they want to. But don’t call it 7th-day Adventism. That’s the farthest thing from it.

One of the major “creedal beliefs” of liberal and progressive SDA’s is that “nothing is salvational.” No matter what you believe or don’t believe, it really doesn’t matter since you probably believe some other “true” stuff, and that is “enough” to make it into heaven.

One of the principal objections to this website, as stated over on Spectrum and Adventist Today, is that belief or non-belief in “evolution as fact” doesn’t matter since the belief in the Genesis account is “not salvational.”

Name any biblical truth, and many Spectrumites will tell you it “isn’t salvational.”


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