Fundamental Beliefs – Someone here may say that the comment …

Comment on Creeds and Fundamental Beliefs by Charles.

Fundamental Beliefs –

Someone here may say that the comment I have to make is off topic. True, it is not about evolution but it is about one of our most core fundamental beliefs. It is related to our very name “Adventist” and the issues upon which this church was founded.

When this church was founded, it was upon the belief of a very near coming of Jesus in power and glory. That was more than 150 years ago.

Am I mistaken when it seems to me that our discussions tend toward the long term?

One of our more fundamental beliefs, discussed here, would probably draw an even more heated discussion than our belief in a literal 7-day recent creation week. I’ll put it out there for response.

We believe that in the near future, God’s REMNANT church will face terrible persecution related to their faithfulness in worshipping the true God and keeping HIS Sabbath holy. In fact, this belief is so core to our existence that the day was made a part of our full name as an organization.

I believe that the preparations for this persecution are mostly in place and there remain only a few triggers to engage it fully.

So what will we as Seventh-Day Adventists be doing when the world-wide law is established that enforces the observance of Sunday? How quickly do YOU think this could happen? Will we be operating the finest medical facilities in the world? Will we be operating cutting-edge educational institutions?

Will we be posting our messages here on the internet? Will we be meeting in our prominant beautiful churches on “Main Street”? If so, will it be on Sabbath? Or Sunday?

How will we be doing all of that from the mountains and caves where we will be hiding?

Ellen White (yes, she was a true prophet) says that “the final movements will be rapid ones.” There are those among us who are pointing to the signs that this is true. We are almost to the time when this earth will be evacuated by God’s “saved”. Should we not be wholly focused on proclaiming the mission that is the cause for our existance?

Why are we here? What are we doing here? Why are we not yet in God’s Heavenly kingdom?

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Hello Ken, my friend.

“… repeat this folly, especially wtih no signs of a mandated Sunday law in sight.”

According to the story (or “legend” if you do not believe it’s true) of Noah, he preached for 120 years and backed up his belief by building a gigantic boat on high and dry land. Yep! And he was mocked and ridiculed for his belief. Imagine the crescendo of mockery as a week passes AFTER they enter the boat. According to the story, the whole world was destroyed except for the few in the boat:

Matt 24 –

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Those are the words of Jesus – Who IS the Creator of this world.

If one is waiting for absolute proof – as in watching for the storm clouds and raindrops to fall – then it will be too late. Too Late!

One either believes or does not believe. Honestly, those of us who do believe have studied the matter and have adequate evidence to believe.

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Anyone who has fully embraced this message realizes that the days to Jesus’ coming are few. Thus it behooves us to be about the work of proclaiming the unique ADVENTIST message to a world that is facing impending doom.

May I suggest the sermons of Jeremiah Davis. (can be found on Youtube)

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It was an event that changed the world in ways that top-down powers would yearn for.

No point in speculation… I think Veith probably was mistaken to do that deep dive and it seems that he has quietly backed away from it.

The thing we must focus on is to “Turn your eyes upon Jesus….” Clearly, we are in “the last days”.

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There is a great “conspiracy” – otherwise known as “The Great Controversy”. It is the ultimate reality of our rebellious little world today. AND it is the foundation of all of these other problems we deal with.


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Evidence that God is in control. LSU could become a beacon of light shining on the truth of our world an how we came to be here. That is as it should be.

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What a day of reckoning it will be when “at such a time as we think not” that great cloud approaches this world. The signs today are loud and bold. Jesus is coming. Spread the word.