Some time ago in our Sabbath School class our head …

Comment on Creeds and Fundamental Beliefs by Daniel Shannon.

Some time ago in our Sabbath School class our head elder and head deconess got into a somewhat heated discussion. During this discussion I realized we had three visitors setting behind me. I became more and more nervous as the “discussion” continued. Later, to my dismay, those visitors told the person that invited them they would NOT be back. Their reason: “Hey, you people don’t know what you believe!” Paul is clear in 1 Corinthians 1:10 we should all speak the samethings, that there be no divisions and that we should be perfectly joined together. It is the devil’s goal to divide and conquer while Christ’s is to unite in Him. IF we are truly united together in Him we will be in harmony, we WILL be saying the samethings because it will be Christ speaking, not ourselves.

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With all due respect Sean Mrs. White makes it clear we are to take Scripture as it is written. It says what it says and words have meaning. IF the term “man” in this case was generic than it makes no sense for Paul to say “MUST be blameless, the husband of one wife” for it is impossible for a woman to be the HUSBAND.


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I do believe 1 Timothy 3 is very clear. It starts off with “This is a TRUE saying . . . ” Paul is clearly telling Timothy the order of things to be done within the “hierarchy” of the church. The term translated “bishop” could also have been translated “overseer,” “superintendent,” “guardian,” and even “elder.” And the individual to fulfill such a very important place “MUST be blameless, the HUSBAND of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior . . . ” etc. In his letter to Titus he confirms this order! Not once but twice does God through Paul tell us the order of HIS church. I will not argue with God about this. Everything must line up with THAT understanding. Why? Because God has said so.


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@Sean Pitman: Normally I not comfortable about speaking about specific individuals but to use Ty Gibson as a reference, sorry it is, in my humble opinion, a big mistake. I’ve tried to get some dialogue going with him regarding his sermons dealing with Righteousness by Faith, specifically his sermon dealing with Romans 7. He has not answered me. IF someone claims to be preaching “Righteousness by Faith,” the message given to us by God in 1888 I would strongly advise them to study THAT message given by Jones, Waggoneer and Mrs. White BEFORE attempting to preach it! Ty’s message presented dealing with Romans 7 was flat out wrong when comparing it to Waggoneer’s book “Waggoneer on Romans.” So as far as I am concerned, having almost all of the books he wrote, Ty’s books that is, I find that his understanding has changed, he has moved off of the mark. I would suggest instead of using him as authority in this or any subject pray for him!


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I am pretty sure Paul made all of that clear in 1 Corinthians 11:2-16; 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9.


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I understand that Sean but I could not let his comments go by without responding. It seems to me there are individuals who do not have a concern about splitting the church so they can get what they want. It is my understanding that the committee that was set up to “look into the issue,” those for WO had NOTHING Biblically to justify their position. Just what they wanted. I may be wrong but after reading all I could find regarding this whole issue it is a shame THIS Union, the Union I belong in seems to care MORE for what it wants than what God said in those 3 GC’s.