If anyone wants to see how “creation” can be gobbledegooked …

Comment on The ANN Highlights LSU’s Dr. Lee Grismer – An Evolutionary Biologist by Ron Stone M.D..

If anyone wants to see how “creation” can be gobbledegooked into oblivion, read Harold Weiss’ article “Creation in the Bible” over on Adventist Spectrum.

Is this guy for real? Even many at Spectrum can’t fathom what he is really saying. He even admits he isn’t talking about the “biblical doctrine of creation” in one of his comments below the article!

I say again–is he to be taken seriously?
Is Spectrum to be taken seriously?!

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The ANN Highlights LSU’s Dr. Lee Grismer – An Evolutionary Biologist

LSU Alum: No but any fundamental beliefs that say don’t eat meat and don’t drink alcohol are not fundamental beliefs based on Biblical teachings. They are made up my human’s and to think someone’s character is based on there legalism according to EGW’s rules is ridiculous. Being a vegetarian does not get you into heaven, drinking alcohol does not keep you out of heaven, at least I hope not because I would love to talk to Noah and the disciples ect

Yes, drinking a “small” alcoholic beverage may not keep you out of heaven, (although drunkedness could) but,according to the LSU bylaws, it can get you kicked out of LSU!


The ANN Highlights LSU’s Dr. Lee Grismer – An Evolutionary Biologist

LSU Alum: Also I really hate the discussion about other people having to accept SDA beliefs, we need to focus on showing God’s character to others not trying to change their religion. If we show the true nature of God then it is hard for others to deny the truth.

God’s character is part of our beliefs but not the whole thing. So, we should toss out our “Fundamental Beliefs?”


The ANN Highlights LSU’s Dr. Lee Grismer – An Evolutionary Biologist

Shane Hilde: God’s grace does not = leaving people in positions of leadership who are undermining truth.

Exactly Shane. Progressives focus on grace to the exclusion of anything else, including a “little” alcohol, an “occasional steak”– Smuts van Rooyan being the best (or worst) example of this I have ever seen.


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The reason the LaSierra situation has gone uncorrected so long is that most of our administrators have exactly the sort of political instincts that Dan Jackson has. They are politicians and consensus builders; they want to keep the peace and make the trains run on time. But the circumstances call for men of principle, hard men who are willing to stand for the right “though the heavens fall,” i.e., regardless who is offended and loudly complains.

Dave, I agree with you. Jackson’s trying to play on “both teams” is not going to go well for him.

Unfortunately, politics is the “SOP” of many of our SDA officials, Jackson being just one. “Political instincts” are the rule, instead of actually doing what is “right” according to what we know in God’s Word.


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Shane Hilde: Think big fish: LSU or the Seventh-day Adventist Church.Graham might not have followed procedure with these men, but I don’t know what the procedure is. I’ve read what the process is in the faculty handbook, but I don’t know if that applies to administrative positions which are at will employees. If it does apply to them, then it appears the process was not followed.

Trustees book says, in 6,9,F, that the Trustes may “discontinue” virtually anyone working at the university.

Does that mean to “fire” or to “force their resignation? Seems like it does.