Comment on LSU undergraduate biology bulletin by Eugene Shubert.
David Read: I once heard a pastor preach openly against the substitutionary atonement.Now even I, who have written a long book on creationism, consider the substitutionary atonement to be the central doctrine of Christianity, far more important than creationism. â€¦ I was completely taken aback, stunned in fact, that an Adventist pastor would stand up in the pulpit of an Adventist church and trash this central Christian belief, and obviously one endorsed by E.G. White and traditional Adventist theology.I got a recording of the sermon and sent it, along with a complaining letter, to the conference president.Nothing happened.Oh, I heard through back-channels that the President briefly talked to the pastor, but really nothing happened.
You are lucky. In the Texas Conference, if a church member even passively resists the popular New Age message of a bloodless atonement, then the pastors and elders conspire to have that troublesome church member thrown out of church without even the semblance of a church trial.
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I think many of your statements regarding individuals are seriously out of line.
I sincerely apologize to Gozer the Gozerian and his family for interpreting his rampage on the City of New York as an act of terrorism. Perhaps I misunderstood. I admit that I don’t know much about the spirit world. Perhaps he was only having a little innocent fun.
We cannot speak authoritatively when it comes to the motives of others unless we are a messenger or prophet of God. Unless you claim this office, you need to measure your words more carefully.
I have not judged anyone’s motives. I have observed the visible actions of a herd and I have accurately described those actions. And my description is consistent with the writings of Sister White and an inspired dream of Steve Starman. And for those reasons, since you brought it up, yes, I’ll accept the messenger exemption.
In the Kellogg crisis, God said, “Neither will I be with you any more, unless you awake, and vindicate your Redeemer.” To Joshua God said, â€œneither will I be with you any more, except ye destroy the accursed from among you.â€
God is demanding results and speaking respectfully of demonic doctrines and continuing with the ridiculous pretense that demonic power isn’t present in the church, continually growing and seizing ever-greater control, isn’t going to cut it. I believe that this charade must end.
The ineffectiveness of GC President Jan Paulsen and the magnitude of the problem reminds me of the time when Gozer the Traveler was terrorizing New York City and the Ghostbusters appointed their best scientist, Dr. Ray Stantz, to deal with the crisis:
“DR RAY STANTZ: Gozer the Gozerian… good evening. As a duly designated representative of the City, County and State of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension.”
Just think of me as another Dr. Peter Venkman who sarcastically said, “That oughta do it. Thanks very much, Ray.”
Recent Comments by Eugene Shubert
… the LSU evolutionists are employing a â€œfoxhole mentalityâ€ among their student devotees â€“ convincing them that it is â€œus against the rest of the Adventist church and against Adventist administrators that simply pay lip service to Bible creationâ€.
That is essentially correct. There are two sides to every issue. The dispute here is between science and the Bible. The scientists believe that science should be taught in science class. The opinionated non-scientists that reject science and have no clue what it is, are content with either replacing science with pseudo-science or just getting rid of the teaching of science permanently.
Since you have offerred no response to points raised â€“ the point remains.in Christ,Bob
I already presented the mathematical response: “The odds for any particular sequence of 100 flips of a coin is 1/2^100, which is not zero.”
Do you agree or disagree with the mathematics?
The rest of your attempt to articulate a thought about science is barely intelligible. If you wish to be understood, please write with precision in a scientifically discernible form. I do not understand lowbrow diction. Please learn and use the universal language of science.
Eugene, Now we know your true ambitions!
No, that part isn’t clear. But we do know your rank and the rank of your associates in The Seven Faces of Seventh-day Adventism.
In the case of the coin flip we have 100 very likely events (50/50) in sequence and by adding the statistics of â€œsequenceâ€ to the probability â€“ we get â€œNILâ€.
You’re speaking gibberish. â€œNILâ€ means “nothing; naught; zero.” The odds for any particular sequence of 100 flips of a coin is 1/2^100, which is not zero. And your expressed method of computation, “by adding the statistics of `sequence’ to the probability” is unabashed gibberish and demonstrates that you have absolutely no understanding of the science of probability theory.
You obviously feel great peace when unbelievers curse God because of your willful stupidity.
Are you proud of being a contributing influence that justifies unbelievers in their rejection of Christ?
Eugene so it is only scientists who can have the truth? Science is now superseding the Bible? Are you listening to what you are saying? You are saying that science is God!
It is as Steven Weinberg has said: “With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”
In other words, “the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you” (Ro 2:24).
So grow up and stop practicing deceit.