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Steve Billiter: This process reminds me of politicians milking out their legislative work ensuring that they have plenty of work and the paychecks to follow. Essentially, our Creation belief is already clear, and the Bible in Genesis 1 and 2 is very clear indeed. Add to that what Ellen White says about creation that sheds light upon God’s Word.If any Adventist doubts God’s Word, it is because he/she has shut their eyes to the truth choosing to believe lies. For this reason, I sincerely doubt a 5-year process will cause any to believe the truth. It is not the GC that creates truth; but God Himself.Exo 20:11 “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: why the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it” (AKJV).Had God chosen to take 6000 years, or 6 million years to create the earth, He would have said so.1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Steve, I agree with you completely. The idea that we will somehow clarify our meaning of Belief #6 by changing some wording is pure Pollyannaism.

Those that believe God’s Word believe it now, with the current statement. The Bible is clear except to those who choose to deny its truth. Those who choose secular humanistic beliefs will never change their opinion,no matter what words are used,

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It is not an “accident” that almost all cultures have a story about a flood.The symbol for flood in the ancient Chinese script is the pictogram of a boat and 8 people.in Christ,Bob

Very true, Bob. This certainly is some kind of “evidence” that there was some “great flood” as the Bible describes.

Who actually “wrote” or descibed it first is not of any value as to its veracity, as maybe we haven’t yet found the “oldest” version yet.


Further definition on tap for Adventist fundamental belief on creation

Ken: Re David’s Quote“The biblical origin of the 7-day week was not lost on atheistic regimes such as the French revolutionaries and the Soviets, and they tried to substitute different cycles.”Hi DavidThanks for your comments.As I previously stated, my brief reading indicates that the Bible was not the original source of the 7 day week, but rather it was being used by the Sumerians and Babylonians prior to the rise of the Hebrew civilization. Am I wrong on this point?Your agnostic friendKen

I’ve read a number of sources on the “origin” of the 7 day weekly cycle, and none claim to actually know how it got started.

The Bible does state how, so perhaps it is correct?


Further definition on tap for Adventist fundamental belief on creation

BobRyan: Babylonians, egyptians, Chinese — all came from Noah in the world wide flood that happened about 4500 years ago. (8 people got off the boat, not a million and 8).Moses wrote Genesis about 1000 years after the flood.It is certainly possible that the Chinese and the Babylonians were also writing at that time – although for the longest time skeptics kept complaining about the bible record because they insisted that nobody was able to write at the time Moses lived.in Christ,Bob

Exactly Bob. The 7 day week has no “objective” reason (compared to months, years, etc.)for existence.

But, virtually all mankind accepts it and uses it. A fluke?! I don’t think so.


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