I simply don’t believe you… You’re asking for far far more …

Comment on Dr. Jason Rosenhouse “Among the Creationists” by Sean Pitman.

I simply don’t believe you…

You’re asking for far far more than the “weight of evidence” – the weight of evidence that would convince the vast majority of rational people, including scientists, if they were to personally witness the miracles of Jesus as they are described in the Bible. There simply would be no rational reason to doubt given such evidence. The only reason anyone would continue to doubt in the face of such evidence (like personally witnessing the resurrection of the body of someone who had already started decomposing or personally seeing someone born blind healed or personally witnessing the Transfiguration and hearing the voice of God and seeing Moses and Elijah show up at the same time, or seeing Jesus crucified, stabbed in the side, and then raised from the dead as an angel from Heaven showed up and flattened an entire legion of Roman guards, etc) would be due to a desire not to accept the obvious conclusion for personal or philosophical reasons (i.e., a desire for the truth not to be true) – as was the case for the Jewish leadership in Jesus’ day. They refused to see what should have been blindingly obvious (Mark 4:12).

You seem to be of a very similar mentality to that of the Pharaoh who refused to recognize the Signature of God, arguing, like you, for “magic tricks” despite being shown miracle after miracle at higher and higher levels of Divine power far beyond what his magicians could imitate. You seem to be demanding a form of absolute proof that goes well beyond what is needed for a conclusion to be rational or scientific. Now, its fine and even wise to be skeptical to a point. However, a demand for such absolute proof removes the need for science. Science is only useful when there is the available information is limited. So, you’re not really asking for a scientific conclusion, based on the weight of evidence in hand, but an absolute demonstration. Well, you’re simply never going to get what you’re asking for – as least not in this life.

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Dr. Jason Rosenhouse “Among the Creationists”
I have no fear, thanks to God and His mercy, and no one is free of bias – not even you. You’ve simply traded one religion for another. It is still possible that your current bias blinds you to what would otherwise be obvious.


Dr. Jason Rosenhouse “Among the Creationists”

No, I think science would have discredited them if their ideas were not supported by observation and experimentation.

Exactly, so why not at least try to do the same for my ideas, which are quite easily falsifiable?

I know, you can’t do it yourself, but you’re quite sure that if I publish my ideas in a mainstream science journal that someone out there will know how to shoot my theory all to shreds. Right? This sounds like a no-brainer! Why not just published my ideas and test them against the big boys? It must be that I’m afraid to get shot down! and that’s why I don’t publish… Don’t you think?

I guess that’s why I went on live radio to debate Jason Rosenhouse? – because I was afraid that he’d show me how silly my ideas are on public radio? – how the Darwinian mechanism is so clearly capable of creating all kinds of things regardless of their level of functional complexity? If I was so afraid of getting smashed to pieces by some of these Darwinian big shots, why take such public risks? – even in their own blogs and public forums? Why not just hide out in my own little ghetto?

Come on now. You have to know that I’d love to be able to publish my ideas on the statistical limits to the Darwinian mechanism in a science journal like Nature or Science or any mainstream science journal. I really would. The problem, as I’ve already explained, is that no one is going to publish, in any mainstream science journal, any argument for intelligent design or creative intelligence (even if the intelligence were a “natural” intelligence like some kind of intelligent alien life form) as the origin of various kinds of biological machines. It just doesn’t happen these days without someone getting fired over it. So, the next best thing is to take the argument directly to them and challenge them in their own blogs, on the radio, and on television, etc. There’s nothing else I can do. My hands are tied.

In any case, do let me know when you’re willing to reasonably define what it would take for you to recognize a phenomenon as a true “miracle” or when you’re able to present something, anything, that explains how the Darwinian mechanism of RM/NS can actually work beyond very low level of functional complexity.

Until then, what are you really contributing here? What are you trying to say? – that you don’t know but someone else probably does? That you’re skeptical about everything and nothing could possibly convince you of the existence of God or any other designer of life? – not even if you were to personally witness some of the most fantastic miracles described in the Bible? Good luck with that… but you’re just fooling yourself in your efforts never to be tricked by anything. You’re missing out on a great deal that life has to offer.

Still, I wish you all the best.


Dr. Jason Rosenhouse “Among the Creationists”
All the best to you… yet again 😉


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