Dear Bob, Although I do not agree with you in your …

Comment on Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict by Ricky Kim.

Dear Bob,

Although I do not agree with you in your conclusions regarding my latter comment, I nevertheless respect your views and am grateful for the opinion you have been willing to share. I will go ahead and list the comments I disagree with alongside my reasoning, and would be most grateful if you would take the time to clarify them for me.

1. “We spend quite a bit of time sending satellites up where there is no normal rise and set of the sun as they travel through our solar system. This does not stop us from knowing what 24 hours “is”.”

This does not stop us from knowing what 24 hours “is” because we make our satellites travel relevant to our natural environment where a 24 hour period exist and operates.

2. “From a science POV the “evening and morning” sequence does not require sun – it requires a rotating planet with a period that is the same as the one we have today – and a “light source” (does not have to be the sun) – that is on ONE SIDE instead of on ALL sides.”

What exactly was this light source? I have a hard time acknowledging that this is to be translated literal versus figuratively as a creation of an environment for the sun, moon, and stars to inhabit as i have stated before.

3. “Our own FIRST fundamental belief argues that the bible IS a reliable accurate account/record of history – and as it turns out – the record “starts” with DAY-ONE of Creation week. Thus the irreconcilable differences confronting the would-be “seventh-day darwinian” start from the very first Fundamental Belief.”

The issue with established doctrine is that it is not open to new truths that may be unveiled throughout the course of time. This is one of the reasons why there was a faction within the early church on the question of whether adopting the functionality of a doctrine would prove to be prudent or not. Also with that said, the Christian scriptures were written about 2000 yrs before Christ and about 200 years after Christ, that’s it. Whereas modern science did not occur to about the time of Gallieo, Newton, and Einstein. How can there be any science in the Bible, there cannot be, the two historical periods are separated by to much. I have a harder time trying to convince myself of this when I realize that only about 1% of the population during that time (upperclass, religious leaders) where literate and educated.

Also, I will argue that the Bible is not an accurate picture of history. For a number of reasons but I will name 2 to keep in short:

1) There are no extra-biblical evidence that the Exodus ever occured, or at least in the massive of a scale. For if there were, there would have been at least some evidence of it in Egypt or at least in its surrounding countries.

2) From the human genome project it is quite evident that the human race has its origins in Africa. Where they began to spread out to various parts of the world. As we know, an Ice Age did occur which set itself upon the Northern part of our world. Now, as the Ice melted-various floods would have occurred-in the Northern parts of the earth. Interestingly enough, all records of flood stories come from these Northern parts of the world. That is to say, that a global flood is quite questionable.

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Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
[edit – Sorry Ricky. Your recent questions and comments, while very interesting and provocative, are simply not part of the main purpose of this particular forum. All the best with your continued search. Just consider that your ability to be empathetic with the suffering of humanity was given to you from outside of yourself. If there is a God, surely He knows what you feel since He is the one who created you with the moral sensibilities that you have… – sp]

Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
Prof. Kent,

I will agree with you in your statement that there are no easy answers for this question. Which is why I continue to disbelieve in a loving, all-powerful, and all-knowing God. I dare say, that this question is apart of many others which leads fellow human beings like myself to question God’s existence and more importantly his character. If he truly cared for the skeptics out there, I would think that he will reveal this hidden mystery that frustrates so many. What is he so scared of? Also, in regards to your comment, does God really need a companion? I thought he didn’t need anything?

However, I digress.
It seems like our only answer to resolving suffering in this world gentlemen is to combat it. In the spirit of the “Good Book” I say that will be to take care of the poor, widow, orphan, and resident alien among us. To fight for the rights of the marginalized, and to give voice to those who have none. And ultimately regain the dignity that has been robbed through violence, rape, and other wicked acts.

May we live honorably up to the various convictions we hold to be true.


Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
Mr. Lysle Williams,

With all do respect, It really frustrates me how you continue to babble on things that makes no point whatsoever to the question I am asking.
Your argument regarding free-will alongside the various illustration you have so elaborately written up in support of your thesis makes no mark if we were to consider my original proposition:

Why did God create anything to begin with? Why not just hang out with the trinity? Knowing that by creating he is leaving the fate of his creatures to chance? Why create? what is the purpose of creating anything? Do you understand my question now? If you don’t please say so.