Comment on La Sierra University Granted Window to Show its Faithfulness to Church’s Creation Belief by Ron Stone M.D..
Professor Kent: Tell me: have you been hostile toward even unnamed scientists at this website by making generalizations about which institutions have heretical faculty? Or do you claim to show no hostility at all?
I have no personal hostility towards anyone mentioned here, since I don’t know them personally enough to have any hostility. However, I AM hostile to some ideas which they seem to be promoting, since they are undermining our SDA bible-based beliefs.
I AM offended and totally embarrassed regarding those who claim to be “guardians” of our SDA Church, collecting salaries from our tithes/offerings and then not doing the job we chose them to do.
Those in positions of “power” should have their words and actions discussed and even “dissected” if needed, no matter who is “offended.”
You will notice that those “offended” have not addressed this issue directly, either on this forum or elsewhere, but hide behind either silence or pre-packaged PR statements. [edit]
I challenge those involved to “have it out” in a public forum with some of the “disrespectors” so we all can hear and see first hand who is saying what.
I suggest a couple of the Biol. Profs, Wisbey, Graham and whoever else wants to join in “go at it” with Shane, Sean, Walter Veith, Dave Assherick and others they would choose.
Lets’ see whose prevails or even shows up!
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La Sierra University Granted Window to Show its Faithfulness to Church’s Creation Belief
@Charles, There are indeed many so-called “Christian” pastors who have bought a ticket on the “Evolution Express.”
However, I have never seen an actual large survey of SDA ordained pastors regarding their view(s) on this subject. Would the GC, NAD, or even the Pacific Union Conference be willing to do such an analysis, in order to see how our “shepherds” view this matter?
I have done my own “local” survey, and all the pastors say they are creationists.
La Sierra University Granted Window to Show its Faithfulness to Church’s Creation Belief
Charles: So we are all on the same page? “TE and scripture are mutually exclusive principles?â€
I would say “yes.” However, many find it easy to “fool themselves” into the opposite view.
La Sierra University Granted Window to Show its Faithfulness to Church’s Creation Belief
Professor Kent: Bob Ryan won’t do it, Sean Pitman won’t do it, David Read won’t do it, Shane Hilde won’t do it, Ron Stone won’t do it, Wesley Kime won’t do it, Ken won’t do it, Dawkins won’t do it, Provine won’t do it, Meyer won’t do it, Eddie won’t do it, and Professor Kent won’t do it.Okay. But millions of Christians do marry TE and the Bible. How sad that they succeed in such an illogical venture. Let’s pray for them.
They “succeed” by self-deception–the easiest deception in the world!
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The reason the LaSierra situation has gone uncorrected so long is that most of our administrators have exactly the sort of political instincts that Dan Jackson has. They are politicians and consensus builders; they want to keep the peace and make the trains run on time. But the circumstances call for men of principle, hard men who are willing to stand for the right “though the heavens fall,†i.e., regardless who is offended and loudly complains.
Dave, I agree with you. Jackson’s trying to play on “both teams” is not going to go well for him.
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Shane Hilde: Think big fish: LSU or the Seventh-day Adventist Church.Graham might not have followed procedure with these men, but I don’t know what the procedure is. I’ve read what the process is in the faculty handbook, but I don’t know if that applies to administrative positions which are at will employees. If it does apply to them, then it appears the process was not followed.
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Does that mean to “fire” or to “force their resignation? Seems like it does.
