Comment on Adventist Review: Pastors Who Don’t Believe by Sandi Reiber.
No way do I intend to jump into the fray. Just want to say I appreciate very much Danyne’s comment–squeezed as it is into the midst of the “big guns” involved in the back-and-forth of this volatile discussion. But I might venture this (tongue-in-cheek) in defense of the English language: a smiley face is not a sufficient defense (justification, excuse) for poor grammar (although I understand that in England it is the uppercrust who use the word “aint”).
I know men can have, for example, strong parleys on the Senate floor, or face off in the courtroom, when outside those arenas they are (or at least seem to be) the best of friends. Might that be the case here? I hope.
I fear I might know who that pastor is, or could be. Danyne’s final thought is the one to cling to. Amen.
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Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
AMEN!! May God keep us faithful.
Educate Truth’s purpose and goals
I would like to add my “two cents'” worth of support and encouragement for what Shane is doing. Thank you for that very good explanation and for attempting to maintain a Christlike attitude in the midst of this most contentious issue!
I check in to this Website on a regular basis to see what progress if any is being made in the hoped-for resolution. Sometimes I first see reproduced articles from the Review here, before someone tells me about it or I hear someone talking about it. So it is a good resource and a worthwhile forum for (hopefully) constructive discussion.
ANN reports on affirmation of creation and FB #6 enhancement
Richard Osborn’s comments strike a chord of sympathy with me. I believe he has a very good point. I have myself refrained from making comments at times because of a certain tone that comes across to me.
Assuming there are legitimate reasons to be concerned by Dr. Bietz’s response, perhaps it would be well to first present the background (as has been done now by Dr. Pitman) for the concern and even then to refrain from drawing firm conclusions since we cannot read hearts.
When we are writing it is easier to be misunderstood that we are being uncharitable when we don’t mean to be. That is another thing to keep in mind.
It is disappointing that it will be another five years before a more explicit version of FB6 will be voted on. However, I comfort myself with the knowledge that President Wilson clearly recognizes the seriousness of the issue and has come out strongly for taking the Bible as the “authentic, true, literal” word of God; and by the fact that those who do that and allow God’s Spirit to guide them will not be misled. We must as EGW says, yield our minds to “the great I AM,” recognizing our finitude and dependence on Him to guide us. But those who are too confident in their own reasoning and mental ability will be left to believe a lie.
CCC Requests “Decisive and Conclusive Resolution” from LSU
I want to add my enthusiastic Amen! to those of the other comments regarding this letter from the CCC Executive Committee. And I want to express my appreciation for what Educate Truth has been doing to bring this issue before our people.
I am encouraged to believe, by what I have already heard and read, that the creation fundamental belief will be considerably strenghtened to eliminate all ambiguity.
We need to keep praying for our leaders and delegates at the Atlantic session (concerning not only this topic but all the church’s business).
It’s about authority
I very much appreciate Shane’s observations. It reminds me of things I’ve read about some elements in the Emerging Church movement. The same mentality about “I don’t believe in the Bible, I believe in Jesus,” seems to be pervasive.
It is interesting that the great Reformer, John Calvin, in arguing against the Church’s assertion that Scripture could not be authenticated without its (the church’s) authority says, “Those whom the Holy Spirit has inwardly taught truly rest upon Scripture, and the Scripture indeed is self-authenticated; hence it is not right to subject it to proof and reasoning. And the certainty it deserves with us, it attains by the testimony of the Spirit. For even if it wins reverence for itself by its own majesty, it seriously affects us only when it is sealed upon our hearts through the Spirit. Therefore, illuminated by his power, we believe neither by our own nor by anyone else’s judgment that Scripture is from God; but above human judgment we affirm with utter certainty (just as if we were gazing upon the majesty of God himself) that it has flowed to us from the very mouth of God by the ministry of men. [He says this, even though he did not believe in word inspiration.] We seek no proofs, no marks of genuineness upon which our judgment may lean; but we subject our judgment and wit to it as to a thing far beyond any guesswork!”
We have come a long way from the Reformation! I plan to read on from that quote. I believe he goes on to give evidence of the Bible’s divine nature. But what a statement! There is much for us to ponder on and learn from. How he exalted the Holy Scriptures!