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Comment on Michigan Conference takes substantial action in LSU conflict by Allen Roy.

It was a sad day when the church had to deal with Kellogg and loose the medical center. But it had to be done. This is sad too. But it must be done.

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Michigan Conference takes substantial action in LSU conflict
Alan: Wow. How is it that you had been not told what the SDA church really teaches? No Dinosaurs? You gotta be kidding. I’m 59 and all my life I’ve known that Dinosaurs existed before the Flood and died in the Flood. (I’m currently studying for a degree in dinosaur Palentology.) The Adventist Book Centers have been selling books on Noah’s Flood and dinosaurs and how all geology fits into the flood for many many decades. What planet have you been on??

So in effect, you go to LSU ignorant of SDA teaching on Creation and Flood geology. No wonder LSU gets away with it!

Michigan Conference takes substantial action in LSU conflict
We need to be careful not to paint all schools with the same brush. While I’m certain that there are some in other SDA U’s who are promoting Evolutionism, it is not anywhere near the problem as it is in LSU. And If appropriate action is taken at LSU, then there will be a domino effect through out all the schools and those who will not agree to teach what the Church expects, will be weeded out.

Recent Comments by Allen Roy

Dr. Ervin Taylor: ‘A truly heroic crusade’
Taylor wrote: “He must reject all of the mainline conclusions of 99.9% of all those scientists who are involved in all isotopic dating methods, and all other types of dating methods including dendrochronology, varve dating, ice core dating, stable isotope studies of ocean cores, and on and on.”

This is pure Argumentum ad Populum. This logical fallacy is common among naturalists when faced with opposition which they are incapable of comprehending.

Dr. Ervin Taylor: ‘A truly heroic crusade’
@Taylor. What utter nonsense! He hasn’t a clue what creationism is about, not to mention science!!

Former LSU student letter reveals professor’s agenda
I attended LSU back in the early 1970’s I remember the same professors (Guy especially) expressing doubts about the creation account and using extra reading books which claimed that the Genesis account was myth based on ancient Middle East pagan myths. This was presented in a way that it was enlightening, a better understanding than the traditional, backward views of the old SDAs. At the time, I was puzzled why this would be taught, but didn’t say anything. Now I can see where all that was leading. Happily, I wasn’t taken in [edit].

Angry Scientists: Publishing on Intelligent Design
The difference between the Flying Spaghetti Monster is that he has never told anyone in any book that he wrote or caused to be written that he created them last Tuesday. In fact the argument goes ‘We don’t know but what we were created last Tuesday by the Flying Spaghetti Monster with fake memories of history built in. You don’t know if your “god” created you last Tuesday.”

Wrong. The God of the Bible walked and talked with Adam and Eve and told them that he had created them and why. He has talked with prophets ever since. So, we do know that God created us approximately 6000 years ago because he told us. All we have to do is believe it.

Or, all we have to do is believe, based on no evidence whatsoever, that the Flying Spaghetti Monster did it. It’s all based on faith.

Allen Roy
AKA: SkepticalChristian

Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
24 hour day

By definition an hour is 1/24th of the time of one rotation of the planet.

It doesn’t matter how fast the planet is rotating, an hour is always 1/24 of the rotation time.

If you had two planets side by side (planet A and Planet B) and one (planet B) was rotating twice as fast as the other, each planet would still have 24 hours per day/rotation. The difference is that an hour on planet B, when measured by time based on planet A, would be 1/2 the length of time as an hour on planet A. But still, Each planet would have 24 hour days. What matters here is which planet do you live on.

A minute is 1/60 of an hour and a second is 1/60 of a minute. Our Measurements of time is based on the rotation of the planet. The second is based on the minute and the minute is based on the hour and the hour is based on the rotation of the planet. Time is not based on the second or some fraction there of. Nuclear clocks have been set up to try to have a basis to measure time across the universe based on the second. Still even then it is an measurement at only approximates the time of 1/60 of 1/60 of 1/24 of 1 rotation of the planet.

So to saying that the days of the creation week were 24 hours long is really a redundancy. A hour is 1/24 of a day.

As for physics AiG has an excellent summary and explanation found here:

“Do creationists believe in weird science?”