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Steve&#032Billiter: This process reminds me of politicians milking out their legislative work ensuring that they have plenty of work and the paychecks to follow. Essentially, our Creation belief is already clear, and the Bible in Genesis 1 and 2 is very clear indeed. Add to that what Ellen White says about creation that sheds light upon God’s Word.If any Adventist doubts God’s Word, it is because he/she has shut their eyes to the truth choosing to believe lies. For this reason, I sincerely doubt a 5-year process will cause any to believe the truth. It is not the GC that creates truth; but God Himself.Exo 20:11 “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: why the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it” (AKJV).Had God chosen to take 6000 years, or 6 million years to create the earth, He would have said so.1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Steve, I agree with you completely. The idea that we will somehow clarify our meaning of Belief #6 by changing some wording is pure Pollyannaism.

Those that believe God’s Word believe it now, with the current statement. The Bible is clear except to those who choose to deny its truth. Those who choose secular humanistic beliefs will never change their opinion,no matter what words are used,

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Further definition on tap for Adventist fundamental belief on creation

Shane&#032Hilde: From Cliff Goldstein:

I guess the “lunatic fringe” is striking back?


Further definition on tap for Adventist fundamental belief on creation
It is not an “accident” that almost all cultures have a story about a flood.The symbol for flood in the ancient Chinese script is the pictogram of a boat and 8 people.in Christ,Bob

Very true, Bob. This certainly is some kind of “evidence” that there was some “great flood” as the Bible describes.

Who actually “wrote” or descibed it first is not of any value as to its veracity, as maybe we haven’t yet found the “oldest” version yet.


Further definition on tap for Adventist fundamental belief on creation

Ken: Re David’s Quote”The biblical origin of the 7-day week was not lost on atheistic regimes such as the French revolutionaries and the Soviets, and they tried to substitute different cycles.”Hi DavidThanks for your comments.As I previously stated, my brief reading indicates that the Bible was not the original source of the 7 day week, but rather it was being used by the Sumerians and Babylonians prior to the rise of the Hebrew civilization. Am I wrong on this point?Your agnostic friendKen

I’ve read a number of sources on the “origin” of the 7 day weekly cycle, and none claim to actually know how it got started.

The Bible does state how, so perhaps it is correct?


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The ANN Highlights LSU’s Dr. Lee Grismer – An Evolutionary Biologist

Faith: Prof Kent:How do you figure that this site keeps biology profs with integrity out of LSU? Any professor that is following the Bible, supporting creation, and the SDA church has nothing to hide and nothing to fear.When you say “quality” applicants, just how do you judge their credentials?As far as I am concerned, it is far more important that these professors have a firm grasp on the teachings of creation and the teachings of the Bible than any credentials the world can offer. If that had been the criteria used as a guideline for hiring, we wouldn’t be in this mess now. And that goes for all our SDA institutions.

I agree, Faith. However, the type of leadership (Guy,Geraty,and Wisbey)LSU has had over the past two decades shows why we have evolutionists teaching “evolution as fact” at LSU and those supporting any type of creationism being intimidated, both students, and I would suspect faculty as well.

Does the LSU Board even care about this deterioration in our biblical beliefs. Well, their inaction, ineptitude, and apathy in finding any solutions tell me they don’t, at least the majority who control the Board.


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BTW, If you’re a beer or ale drinker, the best are the “darker” and more “robust” varieties, as these have more antioxidants and phytochemical.

Or, you could just eat some oatmeal, barley, or similar whole grain!


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Shane&#032Hilde: @Ron Stone M.D.: I agree. LSU has not been a shining light for our church. That’s unfortunate. That might be the case for other schools as well.

I have much more knowledge of PUC, and it has as many or more problems as LSU, although these have been, so far, ignored by most. PUC thrives on its “high ratings” from U.S. News and World Report, etc. But, it would get much lower ratings if someone knowledgeable from an SDA rating agency actually did a thorough investigation of the school.


[6/17/11 UPDATE] Two administrators, one biology professor, and one board member resign

Adventist&#032kid: @Ron Stone M.D.:Continue to believe that if you want. Not a scientific sample to say the least, but I just asked roughly 80 high school graduates from this year whether they chose which school they were going to or if their parents did. I didn’t even get ten who said their parents limited their choices or prevented them from going to their first choice.

I’ll continue to believe what I actually see and hear, not some biased opinion from you.


[6/17/11 UPDATE] Two administrators, one biology professor, and one board member resign

David&#032Bee: @Ron Stone M.D.: Tenured professors have a formal protective process before they can be terminated. Both resigned possible from their tenured positions as well.

Do you know this or just a guess? I certainly hope they’re gone from LSU completely!