Comment on PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood? by Timothy Widmer.
If Ness has doubts, let him have doubts. But at least open the floor to someone who can give balance to those doubts in schools that claim to be providing such balance.
There is that balance. A whole department of Religion and Theology professors. Every student at PUC is required to take a certain number of Religion credits taught by these professors. Add on top of that Colloquy, in which Ness has given a very pro-creationist talk, and vespers and the rest of the required Worship Credit through various programing on campus.
The balance does exist. You all just refuse to see it. You have taken one 40 minute lecture as a representative sample of an entire 4 year education. Few of you have ben at PUC’s campus for an entire academic year, much less four of them. I think you might have forgotten how education and academia function. It’s a process. Life is a process, and the education system at PUC teaches you that. You wont have all the answers at the end of 4 years. You wont have them after 80 years on this earth. My PUC education taught me this much. A student of the world must be humble and ready to learn and see the fluidity in life.
Adventist higher education should not indoctrinate. It should help us ask the question: How then do we live our lives?
You all frustrate me beyond belief.
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PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood?
You have truncated the evidence to a 6 min clip. That’s even LESS context. Nice one.
PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood?
Thank you to all the PUC students standing up for Dr. Ness.
To Sean/Shane/et all. I’m sorry I want the best TEACHER teaching me when I go to an sda school, not the best ADVENTIST.
PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood?
What all the other supportive PUC students have said.
@Sean and Shane
Have you sat through a Dr. Ness class? Have you sat through a Dr. Ness course? No? Then I propose that you do not have nearly enough source material to question his beliefs and how close they are to the church. You do not have enough source material to judge what he teaches.
It’s interesting. Like Sacha said I don’t feel that you have the students who pay money to go to PUC in your best interest. I owe a lot of money to the government for my time spent at PUC. I also wouldn’t have it any other way. I made a choice NOT to go to a place like Weimar or *Gulp* Black Hills because I wanted a liberal arts education given to me in a community of like minded individuals. That is what is so great about these SDA schools that you seem intent on slandering. Don’t tell me that it is not slander because it most certainly IS. If PUC had given me an education like what Weimar or Black Hills gives I would want my money back. Both PUC and the honors program prepared me for the life I live now. A life that supports the mission statement that PUC. PUC’s professors adhere to this mission statement in EVERY class I have ever attended. That is the long and short of it.
You say that this may not be the beliefs of those who run the church. Well maybe you’re right. But who says they are more right than I. I didn’t vote for Wilson at the GC. I wasn’t even allowed to do so. To have a say in the church that I am apart of and that I love.
And by the by. The NCC Constituency meeting this last year decided not to institute watchdog policies on pastors and on educators. So what you are doing on this site is in DIRECT opposition to the views that the church leaders have taken on this subject. Didn’t Jesus mention something about taking the plank out of your own eye before the speck in your brothers. I think he did.
