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Do other SDA schools teach like LSU? If so, which ones? What other bible issues are confronting the church today besides evolution? Bill Sorensen

Bill, PUC has many problems similar to LSU, but I don’t think evolution is a major one. I have three relatives, two majoring in science, who say that “evolution as fact” is NOT taught there.

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The Metamorphosis of La Sierra University: an eye-witness account

@Bill Sorensen:
ALL who reject God as Creator of the literal six-day creation week will eventually reject the seventh-day sabbath as the day to worship our Creator. It is Satan’s clever plan to get humans to accept his spurious day of worship, thereby deceiving millions.  

JG, I agree with you 100% However, if you’ve ever listened to secular liberal SDA’s, they have a rationale for everything, including why one can believe in Darwinian evolution and still believe that God “made” the Sabbath Day.

One of their rationales is that all that Genesis stuff is just “allegory.” Just a “fairy tale” story to illustrate a “principle” and not actually reality. “Adam” is just mankind in general. “Days” are just long periods of time. “Satan” is just your evil imagination.

Evidently, Jesus and all the rest of the biblical characters were fooled and confused because they seem to believe Genesis was real!

The Metamorphosis of La Sierra University: an eye-witness account

I was a graduate student in biology at LLU in the 70′s.All of the faculty and students there at that time were 7- day creationists.I am sure of this. I didn’t know all the biology faculty at LSU at that time, but I never heard any other kind of beliefs from any I knew there either.  

Lance, I graduated from LLUMS in 1977. I never, in my whole training as a physician, remember anything being said about how evolution formed our cells, tissues, organs, etc. I spent 5 years in post-graduate medical education, and nobody mentioned it there either.

I took and passed numerous national board exams, without seeing a single question on evolution. I even passed the Internal Medicine Boards, and found no questions on how evolution affected health, disease, or anything else.

The Metamorphosis of La Sierra University: an eye-witness account

The reason for understanding the evolutionary theory is for the sake of the evolutionist whom we love and seek to help. The most convincing scientific arguments for Creation are from individuals who have taken the time to listen and know the arguments of for evolution. ‘Know your enemy.’ It prepares you to meet the errors intelligently and objectively.

Linda, I totally agree with you. The best way to counter the religion of evolution is to actually study the basic tenets and evaluate the actual empiric scientific evidence they are based on. What you will find is hypotheses, speculation, and theories built on faithful adherence to the secular humanistic “religion” of materialism.

If you ask the evolutionists themselves, they will admit this! Do I need to quote?

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My Goal for La Sierra University

The reason the LaSierra situation has gone uncorrected so long is that most of our administrators have exactly the sort of political instincts that Dan Jackson has. They are politicians and consensus builders; they want to keep the peace and make the trains run on time. But the circumstances call for men of principle, hard men who are willing to stand for the right “though the heavens fall,” i.e., regardless who is offended and loudly complains.

Dave, I agree with you. Jackson’s trying to play on “both teams” is not going to go well for him.

Unfortunately, politics is the “SOP” of many of our SDA officials, Jackson being just one. “Political instincts” are the rule, instead of actually doing what is “right” according to what we know in God’s Word.

Bradley, Beach and Kaatz retain attorney

Shane Hilde: Think big fish: LSU or the Seventh-day Adventist Church.Graham might not have followed procedure with these men, but I don’t know what the procedure is. I’ve read what the process is in the faculty handbook, but I don’t know if that applies to administrative positions which are at will employees. If it does apply to them, then it appears the process was not followed.

Trustees book says, in 6,9,F, that the Trustes may “discontinue” virtually anyone working at the university.

Does that mean to “fire” or to “force their resignation? Seems like it does.

My Goal for La Sierra University

GMF: If what has been reported about Jackson is correct it is very troubling. Also, one can only wonder why he was selected as the NAD President.I’ve seen a thing or two which made me wonder about Jackson but this report, if true, has to be the worst. May the Good Lord help us!

Jackson was selected to replace Don Schneider, who was also very “passive” in his approach to this problem.

Besides telling Wisbey to “love Jesus” Jackson did virtually nothing.

My Goal for La Sierra University
Sean, Great summary and analysis of the current situation. Another good review of this matter is in the Jan-March 2011 Elders Journal. It also goes into the 2004 evaluation and recommendations, as you have quoted.

Bradley, Beach and Kaatz retain attorney
How about a “class action” suit against anyone and everyone who has heard the tape or has heard OF the tape?