@Jorge: This is a fundamental problem in America today that …

Comment on The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU by Rev14.12.

@Jorge: This is a fundamental problem in America today that is ruining our country. For some strange reason Progressives and Liberals cannot make the distinction between disagreement and hate. This is implied in Jorge’s post. It is a very small minded position that says if someone disagrees with me, they hate me. It is implied in Jorge’s post that because Sean is a creationist, he would not help the evolutionist.

It is entirely possible to disagree on the subject of our origins – whether we were created by God or whether we evolved – and still be a loving Christian.

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The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
@Jorge: Jorge, do you have children? If so, where will you send them to school? How about a school where they don’t believe that God created the earth and that we evolved. And not only would your children believe that we were not created by God and there is no God, they are free to marry someone from their own gender. It REALLY doesn’t matter what you believe. Only love matters, right? Ridiculous.

Jesus loved the people, but he also ran the money changers out of the temple.


The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
@Jorge: Jorge, so here are a couple of questions for you.

Do you believe that there are rock solid Biblical beliefs that the church has studied since before 1844 that should count as our Fundamental Beliefs? If so, are people who call themselves SDA church members free to pick and choose among those beliefs (Smorgasbord Adventism) as they want? Are they free to believe and teach beliefs contrary to the stated Fundamental Beliefs? If they go against the church’s beliefs and then cause others to doubt their belief in God, can they still be a member in good standing?

Your “warm and fuzzy” love everyone and have no judgement for anyone and everyone do as they please doesn’t work in REAL life. God is not a God of disorder. The church has to run on order or it falls apart.

The real problem is unethical people who won’t leave an organization when they no longer believe in it’s beliefs. But that is par for the course in this evil world. Maranatha!


The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
@MLB:

What a tough place to be as an administrator! If they cave in to political correctness and acquiesce to the Progressives and allow LSU to continue in its errant ways, they will be responsible before God for the young people who lost their faith in God and the SDA church. But if they do the right thing and really fix the problem at LSU, they will offend the Progressives and there could be a schism in the church.

But who knows what is really in an administrator’s heart or mind? Maybe they were put into office for such a time as this. We shall see.


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Michigan Conference accused of shunning LSU choir students
@BV:

BV, these classic Bible texts that we all know describe it so well.

“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” (Matthew 7:13-15 ESV)

I fear for our people. Horrible times are right before us and the majority are unaware. So many are SDA in name only – cultural Adventists – who are very soon to fall away in the shaking that we are currently in.


Michigan Conference accused of shunning LSU choir students
BV, we are God’s people. He started the school for our benefit and is our leader. I mean that it is our school in the sense that God intended for us to nurture and care for it by following His plan.


Michigan Conference accused of shunning LSU choir students
@Holly Pham:

Political correctness is an evil thing. It prevents people from calling sin by its right name. We need more Gallimores to stand up against the evil in the church. I pity the milk toast administrators who are supposed to be the watchmen on the wall, but are afraid to offend someone. If I were an administrator, I would be afraid that there was judgement coming for those that overlook sin and let innocent people be deceived because they did not do their job. These are not times for the faint of heart. God is calling us to faithfulness!


Michigan Conference accused of shunning LSU choir students
Holly, the day ain’t over yet. We may see our beloved church do just that. We are told it APPEARS that the church is going to fall. We are also told that there is a time of trouble coming AS NEVER WAS. Read the following statement. I read it decades ago and wondered about it. Back then I could never have fathomed that God’s church would have come to where we are today. Since this kind of deterioration has happened, it’s not a very big step to throw out God’s Holy Seventh-day Sabbath and follow the first day of the week. The shaking is happening right now before us. I believe things are going to get much worse.

“The Lord has a controversy with his professed people in these last days. In this controversy men in responsible positions will take a course directly opposite to that pursued by Nehemiah. They will not only ignore and despise the Sabbath themselves, but they will try to keep it from others by burying it beneath the rubbish of custom and tradition. In churches and in large gatherings in the open air, ministers will urge upon the people the necessity of keeping the first day of the week. There are calamities on sea and land: and these calamities will increase, one disaster following close upon another; and the little band of conscientious Sabbath-keepers will be pointed out as the ones who are bringing the wrath of God upon the world by their disregard of Sunday.” – {RH March 18, 1884 Par. 8}


Michigan Conference vs. LSU – Right Wing Politics or Truth in Advertising?
Sean makes a great point here. The Fundamental Beliefs of the church have been with us for a very long time. These beliefs indicate what Seventh-day Adventists believe. Our church pioneers spent many countless hours studying their Bibles under the direction of the Holy Spirit to reveal those previous truths. If support of our FB’s is now no longer considered main stream Adventism, but rather fringe, right wing, Tea Party stuff, then that demonstrates how far off the progressives that call themselves SDA have gone off course.

I have said it before and I will say it again. The problem at LSU is not fixed and the problem is not just with the biology department. Things will not be fixed there until disloyal administration and faculty are discharged, and loyal replacements are hired in both the religion and biology departments.

I don’t think for a minute that the relative quiet at LSU right now means that things are OK. I don’t think that PhD’s that have espoused ideas so contrary to our FB’s have suddenly changed their minds and are now loyal to the church. They are waiting for us to go away and lose interest. What do we want for our church? Do we want our Bible based doctrines that have guided us up to this point? Or do we want do as you please religion as Irv Taylor and his friends at LSU want?