Comment on Video show LSU undermining church doctrine by Stephen Vicaro.
Teachers at our colleges can now expect â€œspiesâ€ in th classroom to make a criminal case of anything that can be misinterpreted. You guys are a piece of work.
Hi Geanna. I hope all is well.
This video was not produced by “spies” as you call them. They were produced by the university. And they tell the story. Fritz Guy clearly demonstrates that he trusts current philosophy much more than divine inspiration. The man should have never taught in one of our universities. He essentially says that current “knowledge” is the judge of past prophetic inspiration. Wo who do I believe, Guys knowledge, or another like him who disagrees with him. Human reasoning is not as dependable as divine inspiration.
Itâ€™s all hate talk.
Please Geanna. You can’t start name calling someone just because they disagree with you or one of your mentors. Is it hate talk when an LSU professor disagrees with and objects to the establishment that he has agreed to uphold the beliefs of?
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I believe in creation and I have no iidea what your imaginary circle is and see no relevance whatsoever..
I’m sorry Geanna, but there is no way that your views and arguments reflect that of a creationist!
For years, I have feared that Adventism is intellectually dead. No one has been willing to discuss our lack of scientific evidence for a recent Creation. And, here you are making sure that nothing will change.
Carl, again, we are talking about he Seventh-day Adventist “CHURCH.” We put a higher authority in what God has said, as opposed to what man says. Why do you think that the so called “discoveries” of athiests should be able to persuade Christians to abandon the Bibles clear statements, including the very words of Christ Himself? Should we also believe those same atheists when they tell us, “it is impossible to prove that there is a God, therefore we should assume that He does not exist”? If you want to hang with that crowd then please do! The next thing you might tell us is that God did not know how we came to be!
We don’t change our Biblical beliefs on theories based in scientific interpretation. The interpretations change too frequently for that.
If you really find no satisfaction in what the Seventh-day Adventist Church believes, then why are you one? I am certainly NEVER going to join the Masons, the Harry Potter’s Fan Club or the Communist party because I am diametrically opposed to what they stand for. Why would anyone insist on forcing themselves to be a part of an organization that it is fundamentally opposed to at its foundation, and then try to change it? That seems illogical for a group of people who claim to be so logically based.
The SDA Church is founded upon the Bible as the infallible Word of God, the Atonement of Christ as the solution to the death problem that our sins brought upon us, and that God is the Creator of all things Who can make something out of nothing without the necessity of the laps of time. No of these beliefs can cohabitate with theistic evolution.
Carl, please explain to me how we are saved if we are to accept geological interpretations that originated with atheists? Yes, it matters!
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Were you asleep during this presentation that like Trenchard and Guy FULLY SUPPORTED THE TRADITIONAL BELIEFS OF THE CHURCH? Or did you decide that being highly selective with your examlpses would be more effective to support your claim that LSU is undermining Adventist faith?
I am sorry to say this Geanna, but I think that you were the one who was asleep during those lectures. Those guys spoke right over your head. You completely missed all of the subtleties of their heresy.
Why did you not mention the wonderful lecture by Webster, another religion faculty member who reassured us that every one of the following threats from science to the Adventist church can be met:
1. Threat to propitiation model of atonement â€“ if death is not â€œthe wages of sinâ€, but necessary to evolution-creation-life, then the whole purpose of salvation is lost. No fall, no Savior.
HOW? Please enlighten us on how these conflicting views, evolutionary origins and the atonement, can be met.
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“I was then carried back to the creation, and was shown that the first week, in which God performed the work of creation in six days and rested on the seventh day, was just like every other week. The great God, in his days of creation and day of rest, measured off the first cycle as a sample for successive weeks till the close of time. “These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created.” God gives us the productions of his work at the close of each literal day. Each day was accounted of him a generation, because every day he generated or produced some new portion of his work. On the seventh day of the first week God rested from his work, and then blessed the day of his rest, and set it apart for the use of man. The weekly cycle of seven literal days, six for labor and the seventh for rest, which has been preserved and brought down through Bible history, originated in the great facts of the first seven days.” EGW, The Spirit of Prophecy, Volume One, pages 86-87
I have not read your previous comments about the six possible positions you available. For my sake, please repeat them.
Bravus: This web site also has as an avowed goal â€˜changing the churchâ€™s positionâ€™ â€“ tightening the Fundamental Beliefs at the next General Conference to enshrine 6 day 6000 year creationism as the only possible position for SDAs. Same goal, slightly different approaches and intentions.
If you are not a TE, then please state in a clear, precise statement what your position is on origins so that I can know how to comment on your posts.