I think the real question is can our church continue …

Comment on Perspectives from alleged LSU students by Richard Sherwin.

I think the real question is can our church continue to allow non-Biblical, anti Christian, anti SDA teaching to continue to be taught in our schools? Are we going to uphold the Bible or the teachings of man? It’s not about interpreting the Bible. The Bible is very clear concerning a literal creation week, and all of Christian theology depends on it. Are we going to let our vulnerable young people continue to be taught the ways of Satan or not? We need to call evolution for what is is, Satan’s most perfect way of discrediting the Creator.

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My guess is that the leadership in the church is just waiting for the hub bub to die down so they can blissfully go on without having to do anything about it. Sometimes it’s easier to ignore a problem than to do anything about it with the unrealistic hope the problem with solve it’s self. It never does, it just gets worse. I do this with my vehicle and it costs big bucks in the end. But with this issue it will cost salvation for many. Sad.

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Ron, as a doctor you speak much truth and realize that the longer a cancer grows the harder it is to eradicate. It seems that in this case the “doctors” are spending their times making excuses for not operating or denying that the cancer even exists. They are fiddling while Rome burns, instead of fighting the fire. God will hold them accountable for their non actions even if the church does not.

Doug how can I get in touch with you? BTW my nephew was on the MRT this weekend. Enjoyed the wonderful music of coyotes and watched a bald eagle fly over their campsite. I should have gone but there were duties……

Perspectives from alleged LSU students
Doug “mid-night hiker” Carlson, thanks for the kind words.

My fear is that the teaching of evolution is spreading. I have heard that the professors in other schools are coming very near to teaching evolution as fact. And why shouldn’t they since nothing is being done at LSU about it.

Does anyone remember the World Wide Church of God? It was a Sabbath believing church founded by Herbert Armstrong. It is now 1/2 the size it was because they rejected certain doctrines, including the Sabbath. This is my fear for our church. If we let this cancer grow, what is next? Of course all of our doctrines are dependent on a literal creation week.

David, it is not the students who are in rebellion against God that concern me since we will always have those. It is the leadership of LSU that are rebellion against God that concerns me. It is the leadership of our whole denomination that are in rebellions against God that concerns me, for indeed if this cancer is not removed by our church then our church leadership shares in the responsibility of leading people to believe in a anti-Christian view.

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Jon, a most excellent post. However I must take issue with you when you wrote: “LSU continues to isolate itself from its church and the Christian community.” IMO LSU is following the Christian community as the community moves further away from it’s Biblical roots. Evolution discredits Christ and especially the 4th Commandment and it is thus one of the most crowning achievements of Satan as he tries to negate the importance of the Sabbath.

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Anonymous, God’s love is found in Creation, the fall and His death and resurrection. Take away any one element of that equation and you end up with nothing.

It is not one persons word this issue is based on, it’s based on many peoples words, including the president of LSU. The concern is that the professors who are openly promoting evolution at the expense of Creation are undermining the fundamentals of Christianity. All the beliefs of Christianity are rooted in Creation. It is the love of God and for His church that some of us are concerned about what is happening, not just at LSU but at other schools as well as secular humanitarianism is replacing the clear word of God.

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Ken I’m not sure what you are asking. Danial 8:14 says nothing about the evening and the morning. The Bible is very clear throughout about Creation. It’s not mans interpretation, there is nothing ambiguous about what the Bible says, there is no room for interpretation like there might be on other issues (like for instance weather or not the SDA church is the remnant). There is nothing in the Bible that someone can point to and say God related the Creation account as a metaphor or simply as a myth. And it’s on the Genesis account of origins and the subsequent fall that gives us the need for a savior. Genesis is the base for the other 65 books of the Bible, if we disregard it as a myth then the rest of the Bible is also reduced to a myth, including the new testament and it’s account of Christ.

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Dennis all through the Bible creation is told to us as a literal event, even Christ spoke of it as a literal event. So it’s not the church you are accusing of being deceptive, it’s God Himself. It was He who told Moses to write, “for in six days God created…..”. It was not the SDA church who is responsible for that Biblical statement. It’s tiresome to me when I hear people claim the church is deceptive on this issue when what they are really saying is that God has told a lie.

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Geanna, I’m sorry if you took my post to be hostile. I was not meant to be. But it’s true that if I tell someone to have an open mind in a discussion I’m using that as a tool to get them to see something my way. Everyone does it.

And I am the first to state that I believe wholeheartedly in micro-evolution. It apparently happens very fast, in fact I have seen it happen within a couple years in my yard. However micro-evolution is not an explanation for the origins of life, nor does it explain how a lizard can become a robin. I see no problem with a house cat evolving into a lion. However if you were to tell me a house cat involved into a dog I would see a problem, and so would my dog.

I see nothing even remotely un-Biblical concerning micro evolution and it’s the only logical explanation for the flood account.

However the evolution that is of concern on this web site and has become an issue in the church is not micro-evolution, it’s macro-evolution. Where one specie (not a biology person so don’t jump on me for wrong usage), like a fish, can become a dog over hundreds of millions of years. This is not a Biblical answer to our origins. On these and other boards considering this when someone speaks of evolution we are meaning it to be the theory of origins, macro-evolution, unless it’s stated otherwise.