Comment on LSU student: ‘Apostates or Apostles’? by Shane Hilde.
@Concerned Adventist: God has given us all the gift of reason, and when we allow the Holy Spirit to lead our reason we can come to an understanding of truth. This is the mechanism by which we understand the Bible to be true and reliable. God will provide us the evidence we need to rest our faith. Notice what Ellen White says in Steps to Christ page 105:
God never asks us to believe, without giving sufficient evidence upon which to base our faith. His existence, His character, the truthfulness of His word, are all established by testimony that appeals to our reason; and this testimony is abundant. Yet God has never removed the possibility of doubt. Our faith must rest upon evidence, not demonstration. Those who wish to doubt will have opportunity; while those who really desire to know the truth will find plenty of evidence on which to rest their faith.
There are plenty of examples in the Bible where God gives evidence of his word. Yes, faith does come from God’s Word, but before a person can come to the place in their life where they believe that, they must have good reason to believe. God doesn’t ask us to believe in something for no reason at all.
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LSU student: ‘Apostates or Apostles’?
This only 4% biz is shear non-sense. According to their enrollment at the beginning of the year (2,098) that means only 84 students take general biology or are biology majors?
That’s boloney. When I took general biology there were at least that number just in my class. It had to be in a stadium seating classroom to fit everyone. I could be wrong on this but I think general biology is a required GE course. I was an English major and I had to take it.
Don’t take everything LSU PR spits out hook line and sinker.
Have you been over at Spectrum? You’ll find enough over there to qualify for ridicule.
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I know from talking to a couple of reporters from Press Enterprise and Inside Higher Ed that Randal Wisbey was effective in shutting down communication between any outsiders and the biology faculty. It appears he made himself the only channel of communication between the board and biology faculty.
I emailed Larry Becker about what bylaw the board members broke that was worthy of dismissal, and I have yet to hear a response from him.
I would also note that board members at other universities appear to be free to talk to the faculty.
Another interesting point. He removes three board members for trying to work on the problem and come up with a solution, and then turns around sort of embraces what they’re doing. He can’t publicly condemn it because everyone can see, whether you agree with what they wrote or not, that it’s a significant step for the faculty to be speaking to the church.
Did he forbid the document from being published? No. If you’re really excited about seeing the biology department making advancements in solving the issue, why are you removing the people who are making that happen. He never did anything like that.
What has Wisbey done to address and fix this issue? Nothing. He’s dragged it out, lied about what’s been happening, and told everyone involved to shut up or get in trouble. What on earth is he trying to do?
Who knows, he might even be a part of the underground movement to sever LSU from the church by using WASC as the big hammer. It’s obvious from one former board member, there was interest in using WASC to manipulate the situation.