Maybe, then, someone should pull the WASC’s accreditation if they …

Comment on Board requests progress reports from LSU administration by Bob Pickle.

Maybe, then, someone should pull the WASC’s accreditation if they really made such a statement. In my opinion, the WASC is without authority to forbid a church-run institution to maintain its faith and religious mission.

Does the WASC have any creationists involved in its decision making processes? Any science teachers who believe that the scientific evidence supports life on earth being created in six actual days just thousands of years ago, and later being destroyed by a global flood?

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Board requests progress reports from LSU administration

Carl:
That is an interpretation of Genesis, but certainly not what the language requires. The purpose of Genesis 1 and 2 is far more grand than to give a historical recitation of events. Have you never read beyond the plain text?  

You appear to admit that the plain text calls for creation occurring in 6 days, which of course is true.

I for one have read beyond the plain text things written by both sides of the question. One of the writers I have read is named Ellen White, and she explicitly wrote that the idea that the 6 days of creation were not 6 days is a most dangerous form of infidelity.

Since Seventh-day Adventists believe that the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy, then what Jesus testified by His Spirit through His prophet must carry more weight than the assertions of infidels and skeptics. Certainly you would agree that Jesus is more knowledgeable on this issue than an infidel like Charles Darwin.

But back to your assertion that the language of Genesis does not require the interpretation that the 6 days be 6 days. In what way is taking the words as they read an interpretation? It seems to me that evolutionists make that assertion just to muddy the waters.

We’re not talking about one group interpreting the beast of Rev. 13 to be a computer and another group interpreting it to be a kingdom. We’re talking about one group taking the 6 days statement as it reads, and another group interpreting it to mean something other than what it says.

It has been stated that no Hebrew scholar in any world class university anywhere in the world believes that the author of Genesis intended the 6 days to be understood as anything other than 6 days.

Thus, proposing that Gen. 1 and 2 has some sort of grand purpose built into a bogus story raises questions as to why God, who presumably had that grand purpose, allowed Moses to record a bogus story. It also raises questions as to what sort of grand purpose a super-distant deity might really have when he is so far removed from us as to take millions of years to make life on earth, and as to never having been able to straighten Moses out about how the world was created.

Really, if one thinks through all of this to its natural conclusion, one is left without faith in the Bible, without faith in God, and without the Adventist message. And that leads me to conclude that the grand purpose behind such reasonings is the purpose of a mad “man,” the arch rebel, a genius gone awry, who gives fair speeches promising enlightenment and wealth and fame, all the while waiting like some gangster the right moment to blow us away.

Therefore, I applaud every effort by the LSU board to address and rectify the problem of evolution over millions of years being taught as fact at La Sierra.


Board requests progress reports from LSU administration
“In recognition of the serious and complex nature of this issue, ….”

Think there’s any possibility they’re leaving a paper trail to avoid lawsuits if someone chooses not to comply?


Recent Comments by Bob Pickle

Mandates vs. Religious Exemptions
“While the procedures were sloppy in this particular company, they do not appear to have significantly affected the overall integrity of the data.”

How do we know? a) How do we know that no other contractors were as sloppy? b) How do we know that “the overall integrity of the data” wasn’t “significantly affected”?

“Another reason I say this is because billions of people around the globe have now been fully vaccinated, giving researchers plenty of real-world data that clearly shows the safety and efficacy of the vaccines.”

Then why use randomized double-blinded trials at all if safety and efficacy can be clearly shown by just doling the real thing out to everyone?

Understand my question? The “real-world data” isn’t coming from something that is randomized and double blinded, and thus can never speak to the question of safety and efficacy like a randomized double-blinded trial can.


Mandates vs. Religious Exemptions
Sean, this article from the BMJ, authored by a double-vaccinated writer, is of interest: “Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial” at https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

The whistleblower was a clinical trial auditor, with a 20-year career in research. Her concerns about the conducting of the Pfizer trials weren’t addressed, the article states. It explains how the FDA doesn’t handle oversight issues in a timely manner, and gives examples. And all that calls into question the integrity of the Pfizer clinical trial data.

I found “How Fauci Fooled America” at https://www.newsweek.com/how-fauci-fooled-america-opinion-1643839 by professors from Harvard and Stanford also of interest. The observations made good sense.

I’m glad you aren’t in favor of vaccine mandates.


Dr. Peter McCullough’s COVID-19 and Anti-Vaccine Theories
Since you did not respond to my principal concern, I think it fairly reasonable to conclude that Jack Lawrence’s statement about the effect of withdrawing the Egyptian study from meta-analyses is at best of questionable accuracy, and at worst a prevarication, since you are unable to show how the withdrawal of that Egyptian study significantly impacts the particular meta-analysis I provided a link to.

And thus, there may really be a conspiracy out there, even if Ivermectin is not an effective treatment.


Dr. Peter McCullough’s COVID-19 and Anti-Vaccine Theories
Could you explain that? Above you said, “I have taken a look. And, I find no reason to conclude that this is not the case – as have numerous scientists who have also reviewed this study.” That can only mean that you already know what part of the study I’m overlooking. Why would you want to keep that a secret?

“… this isn’t something that interests me ….”

Certainly that can’t mean that you have no interest in making sure your links only go to credible sources.

The two links you gave to show that it doesn’t matter whether Jack Lawrence’s story is on the up and up or not:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389 is only about mild illness, and even admits “larger trials may be needed to understand the effects of ivermectin on other clinically relevant outcomes.” Thus, this study doesn’t refute the entire meta-analysis I linked to, even if this study’s results are reproducible.

https://rethinkingclinicaltrials.org/news/august-6-2021-early-treatment-of-covid-19-with-repurposed-therapies-the-together-adaptive-platform-trial-edward-mills-phd-frcp/ contains no data regarding Ivermectin. But I did find a news article claiming that the results about Ivermectin have not been published or peer reviewed yet.

Any explanation as to why double-blinded RCT’s in Bangladesh, India, Nigeria, presumably Iraq, and Spain would yield different results than the one from Columbia that you linked to? Each of those are listed in the meta-analysis regarding mild illness. (I said presumably Iraq because the meta-analysis called it an RCT, but didn’t include the words double-blinded.)

Perhaps part of the issue is what the Ivermectin was combined with. Comparing Ivermectin with Ivermectin + something else does not prove that Ivermectin isn’t helpful if one of those regimens is less effective than the other.

The news article about the Together Trial decried conspiracy theories. I think a good way to refute conspiracy theories is to show that there aren’t any, by proving that Jack Lawrence is legit. Otherwise, if he’s only a pseudonym, or employed or paid by a drug company, that’s not going to help squelch conspiracy theories.


Dr. Peter McCullough’s COVID-19 and Anti-Vaccine Theories
Sean, could you please address my question? I didn’t see where you answered it above.

The quote from Jack’s article at https://grftr.news/why-was-a-major-study-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19-just-retracted/ :

“After excluding the data from the Elgazzar study, he found that the effect for ivermectin drops significantly with no discernible effect on severe disease.”

Is that really true?

Here’s a meta-analysis: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

How does removing the Elgazzar study from this particular meta-analysis change the conclusion? I’ve looked at the various tables, and I just don’t get how Jack could make that statement, or how the person he’s citing could have made that conclusion.

If you think I’m misreading the meta-analysis, please cite or quote the relevant text or table, and explain what I’m overlooking.

I’m not looking for “I don’t see a problem.” I’m looking for, “Look at table X. If you remove the Elgazzar study from that table, the end result is that patients with Y disease receive no benefit at all.”

Above, you cited additional studies rather than addressing the truthfulness of Jack Lawrence’s statement as it pertains to removing the Elgazzar study from the meta-analysis I provided a link to. Those are two different issues.

Whether Jack Lawrence’s key contention is correct or not is essentially irrelevant to my question about his credibility. As far as I’m concerned, I don’t like the idea of taking Ivermectin, but whether one should take it or not is not my concern here.

If a masters student in London, whose hobby is to attack a conservative American Youtuber and who just happens to notice plagiarism in the intro of an Egyptian medical study, is so careless or ignorant as to not see that a claim about a meta-analysis is bogus, then something is dread wrong, and we aren’t being told what is really going on.

Why do I say that? Because the presumed level of astuteness that would lead to the detection of plagiarism would prevent the repeating of a bogus claim about a meta-analysis.

Perhaps the problem is that the meta-analysis I provided the link to wasn’t the same one reanalyzed by the person Lawrence cited. Still, due diligence would require that Lawrence make sure that the claim he’s repeating about meta-analyses is actually sound in the light of other meta-analyses, such as the one I linked to on the NIH website from April 2021.