Comment on Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict by Ricky Kim.
“We can easily agree with Ricky that once you toss the Bible out the window – belief in evolutionism (no matter how irrational and unscientific it is) is just about all that is left.”
Mr. Bob,
I don’t know how you can dismiss evolution as being irrational and unscientific-I mean religion teaches that a talking snake existed, alongside a burning bush, and men rising from the dead.
To say the Jesus rose from the dead, or preformed the various miracles that is told has happened based on scripture suggest that the natural order of things, of how the earth operates and still continues to operate till this very day has been suspended and has leaned on your favor. Tell me, what is more likely? that the natural order of things has indeed been suspended, or everything that is “miraculous” is not very miraculous at all?
But this again, will fall into conflict do to how we see the Bible.
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Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
Well gentlemen,
This certainly has been an interesting dialogue,
and I must thank each of you for allowing me to play the devil’s advocate.
And leaving notes upon my various comments. Very enjoyable indeed. However, a quick injection I wish to make.
Enuma Elish or the babylonian creation myth seems to share similarities with the Genesis account. Considering that its creation myth is older. I wanted to ask what are we to make of this? Did God inspire the Babylonians with some truths? And if so, can we consider that all religions lead to one God? And if not, how seriously are we to take the narrative of Genesis. Which also has 2 perspectives of creation. Verse 1 & 2?
Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
Mr. Stone,
I don’t understand your usage of the terms “liberal” and “fundamentalist”.
Believe me, if you followed everything the Bible says-you would be out stoning the homosexuals, killing the witches, etc…
Everyone pick and chooses passages from the Bible.
You can’t be 100% objective about it, because the moment you read it you already are interperting it in your own unique way.
Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict
Respectfully, these arguments towards a theodicy fall flat for me. If a creator [G]od is the prime mover, and [G]od is omniscient, according to classic Xian theology [G]od was able to foresee the consequences of [G]od’s actions. And yet, …the presumption is that [G]od went ahead and put everything in motion. The freewill argument stops working about right here because at some point in time, [G]od had a choice to make – before anyone or anything was created into existence and awareness. If a theology asserts that the whole of the universe was created by [G]od, at one point there was just [G]od and [G]od with all of the future to consider. In this paradigm, [G]od is completely and totally responsible for everything that happens in this universe.
