I fully agree with the principle that we as a …

Comment on Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict by Aaron.

I fully agree with the principle that we as a people are under a direct mandate from God to deal with this in a forthright and decisive way, BUT, with that there is also the realization that repression is as serious a problem as the one here under debate. In all that we do we also have a mandate to be redemptive, Christ centred, kind and understanding. Being drawn into the same arena of pride of opinion and force of majority that the liberal (for want of a better term) camp operates from can create an atmosphere that will send us back into the dark ages. Sometimes the devil tries to arrange things to get a reaction out of us that suits his aims just as much as the action he creates in the first place.

It certainly is time for action, but much, much prayer needs to continue to be poured into this. When God acts through His church, it often is in ways that are both surprising and decisive. After all, He’s creative!

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Jay Gallimore comments on evolution conflict

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?  (Quote)

Ricky–Good question.

Here lies the foundation for this ‘Great Controversy’ we find ourselves in. Really you have highlighted one of the central factors of Who God Is–that He gives free will to His beings. History clearly teaches us the results of free will mis used. Love can only be founded on a free will choice, and the fundamental principle that holds the universe together is love. If this principle is not upheld than you have nihilism and anarchy–the principles we see taking over on this earth.

By analyzing earths history we see where rejecting God’s law of love has taken us, and we can agree with Him that those who choose to live outside of this law cannot be allowed to continue. God has allowed enough time for the facts to be presented and assessed by all, when He does act, there will be no question as to the ultimate justice and goodness of His purpose.

Nahum 1:9
What do you conspire against the LORD?
He will make an utter end of it.
Affliction will not rise up a second time.
NKJV


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Educate Truth’s purpose and goals
Our oldest daughter graduated from one of our colleges with a degree in elementary education. She came out of the process thinking that to teach the biblical, creationist, principles to elementary students too strongly in her schools would jeopardize her job, for if students at a young age were taught these principles too strongly, they would RUN INTO TROUBLE WHEN THEY GOT INTO OUR HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM, not being politically correct. She also had to design her own curriculum for teaching this unit in the multi grade format she was working in. During that time we had many long discussions about these issues. She was clearly distressed at the position she was in as a Seventh-day Adventist educator, trying to balance her belief in the scriptures with what she felt she needed to do to keep her job, for one expectation of her was to prepare the students to excel in the current secular educational environment. She could find little help or materials from Adventist sources for her elementary environnement.

Let me say here we have home schooled all three of our children. Two are successful professionals, the other is still in the training phase. Our older children came out of their experience with Adventist higher education with their faith in the Bible in tact, but with a somewhat diminished respect for our educational system.

I agree that we have the brain-power and the mandate to fix some of these things. If we will, we could be leaders in promoting true advanced science in this technotronic dark age the world has hurling itself into.

Currently our daughter is not teaching, I don’t know if she will return to Adventist education or not. How much room is there these days for serious Bible believing people within our education system? [edit] The issues being debated here are central to our very existence as a church/movement.


Educate Truth’s purpose and goals
@Ken
‘..Of course the problem arises when competing holy books claim they are right to the exclusion of others..’

The Bible is the only document that contains multiple prophetic statements, spanning thousands of years, upon which to base its accuracy upon–these are not subjective. Jesus and the apostles emphasized that it wasn’t the supernatural physical occurrences that should be the foundation of one’s faith in the veracity of God’s word, but that everything corresponding to the life and death of Jesus and the larger picture of what is happening upon this earth, was and is the fulfilment of ancient prophetic writings–even down to the time when Jesus was to perform his ministry upon earth. There is too much specific prophetic material to attribute it to ‘chance’ or just some good guessing. Humans just aren’t that smart.

Isaiah 42:8-9
I am the LORD, that is My name;
And My glory I will not give to another,
Nor My praise to carved images.
9 Behold, the former things have come to pass,
And new things I declare;
Before they spring forth I tell you of them.”
NKJV