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Makes one wonder why an additional freshman class, “an introduction to science/religion”, was needed as yet another platform for LSU professors to challenge the fundamental SDA doctrine on a literal creation week…

Why should the SDA Church spend good money to support a school where any of the teachers, much less a significant majority of professors in any particular department, are openly deriding some of the most cherished pillars of the Adventist faith?

No wonder there is such lack of transparency at LSU and a determined effort to keep what is really being taught from being clearly presented to parents, potential students, and the Church membership at large. No wonder LSU puts the feet of those like Louie Bishop and others who stand for Church doctrines and increased transparency at LSU to the fire. If LSU is so proud of its curriculum, why all of the efforts to sequester what is being presented in LSU science classrooms? – with threats, insults, and censure of students who wish more openness and support of SDA ideals at a “SDA school”? Why all the slick PR advertisements and campaigns that consistently dodge very direct questions as to what our young people are being taught as the gospel truth by their science professors?

Don’t kid yourself. These professors are not simply teaching “about” the theory of evolution. They are actively promoting it as the obvious truth to their students. They are proselytizing for their own personal religion within our schools on the Church’s dime. It’s fine if they want to win converts to their personal views of reality. I’m all for that sort of thing. But, not on the Church’s dime. Taking money from any employer while doing contrary to what that employer is paying you to do, directly undermining the employer’s clearly stated goals and ideals, is robbery of that employer’s time and money. There’s simply no other word for it.

At the very least we all have a right to know what we are all paying for in the training and education of our young people. Surely we deserve open and honest transparency from LSU – at the very least. Yet, as it currently stands, I have yet to see LSU openly admit to anything that is really taking place within its “science” classrooms… much less admit to any sort of actual error or shortfall on their own part regarding their lack of support for and decided undermining of the stated fundamental ideals of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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Creationist students find little support from LSU
@Lorelei:

I fear that if our schools do not teach evolution at all, more and more young people will leave the church as they become disillusioned when faced with the overwhelming evidence in support of evolution.

No one is suggesting that our schools not teach about the theory of evolution. Our schools should teach the very best that the theory of evolution has to offer. However, if this is the very best that a professor in one of our universities has to offer, it isn’t enough. A professor in an SDA university must be able to go beyond to show the students why the stated SDA position on origins is more scientifically consistent with the available facts than is the modern theory of evolution.

You may think this an impossible task, but that’s where you’re mistaken. It isn’t impossible. It is very possible. There happens to be a great weight of evidence favoring intelligent design theory as well as the young-life position and a catastrophic formation of the geologic column and fossil records – consistent with the SDA interpretation of the Genesis account and the intent of the author(s) of Genesis.

For more information on such evidence see: DetectingDesign.com

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


Creationist students find little support from LSU
@Beth Bishop:

I wonder if Professor Grismer who called Louie Bishop either ignorant or stupid is awarethat he not only graduated from the University of California Davis with a Bachelor’s degree in Business but was awarded “Student/Athlete of the Year” his Senior year. He was a standout both academically and athletically his entire four years at Davis.He is neither stupid or ignorant.How sad to treat young people in this manner.  

You wouldn’t happen to be related to Louie would you? If so, you must be very proud of him. He has done and is doing something very special here…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


Creationist students find little support from LSU

From Advestist Today Blog
On April 5th, 2010 nicsamojluk says:

Erv,

I wonder how long it took you to fish those extreme comments from the Educate Truth website. Did you find many other similar postings from readers? To they represent the views of either Shane Hilde or Sean Pitman, the main individuals behind the Educate Truth project?

The short answer to that question is no, the comments posted by Erv and others do not represent my views or the views of Shane Hilde and do not reflect the position or goals of EdTruth.

Also, as Erv very well knows, the goals of EdTruth have been very clear and simple from the very beginning – the production of increased transparency as to what is really being taught at LSU. Despite the suggestion of Erv and others that LSU is only teaching “about” the theory of evolution, Erv very well knows that this is a lie. The LSU science department is in full support of the truth of the modern mainstream evolutionary view on origins and is vigorously proselytizing for this philosophical position. This effort is in direct opposition to the stated fundamental ideals and goals of the SDA Church and is thus a robbery of the Church’s time and money by the LSU “science” professors.

Reporting on this truth of this situation has always been the goal of EdTruth and Erv knows it…

Also, Erv know that the accusation of Larry Becker that EdTruth blocks comments in support of LSU is untrue since Erv himself is a fairly regular poster to EdTruth’s blog pages and several extensive comments from Becker himself have been posted.

The only comments blocked are the ones usually moderated by automation, like those that contain swear words, are of excessive length, spam, or those which the author has specifically requested to be removed…

Sean Pitman

www.DetectingDesign.com


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