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GC Votes to Revise SDA Fundamental #6 on Creation
Dear Geanna,

Wow, you’ve got millions of other Christians figured out, too. One must either accept Ellen White as canonical or you are not a Christian and in fact are delusional.

Actually, I was rephrasing Ellen White’s words found in 5T, page 364, paragraph 1. Read it for yourself.
“…he has not accepted the truth for this time [present truth]; he is an unbeliever…”

Anyone claiming to be Christian, who has not yet accepted *present* truth, truth for *this time,* is an unbeliever.

It’s interesting that you didn’t give me any solid logic to meet my logic. I gave you a cemented Oxford definition. I gave you a biblical thought on ‘Sola Scriptura.’ I gave you an Inspired quote on evolutionary thoughts replacing pure faith. [edit]

God Bless!


GC Votes to Revise SDA Fundamental #6 on Creation
Dear Geanna,

YOU are the one who is incorrect (I’m mimicing your language). You yourself admit that a LOT of microevolution happens and that thousands upon thousands of animal species have evolved since the flood. When you spoke of Darwin’s descent in faith, it was a gradual process. His thinking about change gradually led him to reject a literal creation. You yourself read all sorts of papers about evolution and in that sense you yourself have opened the door to “evolutionary thinking”. It was natural for me to assume your use of “evolutionary thinking” was the start of the process, not the end. But you used this opportunity to lecture me and tell me that I was incorrect. I’m amazed by the number of posts of yours that use the phrases “you are incorrect”, “you are mistaken,” “you are wrong” and the like.

Ummm … *cough* … uhhh … *blink* … I’m sorry sis, but I haven’t done a thing that you’ve accused me of. I have written not a word upon microevolution, darwin, reading evolution papers, etc. I think you got majorly confused: I’m your young fellow college student, not the venerable Doctor.


GC Votes to Revise SDA Fundamental #6 on Creation
@Geanna Dane:

If you are suggesting that “evolutionary thinking” will cause all to lose their faith as Darwin did, your logic is totally flawed and you know exactly why.

You are incorrect. Anyone who harbors ‘evolutionary thoughts’ will not simply ‘lose their faith’ — they Already Have lost their faith — whether they know it or not. I’m not just speculating here: this is what God has told us. Read the following Inspired statement:

“The assumption that the events of the first week required thousands upon thousands of years…is infidelity in its most insidious and hence most dangerous form… It is one of Satan’s devices to lead the people to accept the fables of infidelity.” CE 190

God has told us that this theory is a fable of infidelity. Anyone who believes it has surrendered his pure faith for the worst and most insidious fables of infidelity. God has said it; I believe it.

In your response, please leave Ellen White out of this unless you believe firmly she is canonical

Your Adventist infidelity is shocking. My Oxford dictionary defines the word ‘canonical’ as “sacred books officially accepted as genuine.” Of course, absolutely, Ellen White is canonical! Her books are both sacred and genuine — They are inspired by the same Spirit who inspired the Bible. If a person does not believe this, he has deceived himself into thinking He is a Christian while in fact he is simply deluded.

please leave Ellen White out of this unless you believe firmly…that “sola scriptura” is a fallacy Adventists should avoid.

If someone honestly believes “sola scriptura” he must, of necessity, believe in the Spirit of Prophecy; the Bible tells him he must: Revelation 12:17, Revelation 19:10. The only people who have lost their faith in the Spirit of Prophecy are those who have lost their faith in Sola Scriptura.


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most Adventist creationists have no problem with the planet being older than 6,000-8,0000 years old. It’s the creation of life as described in Genesis as being 7 days that occurred 6,000-8,000 years. Whether this rock called Earth existed prior to the terra-forming is a moot point.

I agree Ethan.

An _excellent,_ albeit lengthy, argument in support of this position is given by the celebrated Adventist astronomer, Jim Burr. See http://www.heavensdeclare.org/starlight.htm


Elliot Sober: Just Don’t Call the Designer “God”
Dear Ken,

I wanted to profoundly commend you for the utmost courtesy you habitually demonstrate. You are dedicated to inquiry and intellectualism, happy to discuss and debate, yet always show a calm deference and even likable ‘niceness.’

We hold critically different philosophical views, yet I thank you for teaching me so much. I wish more would take notice. A similar thanks to men like Victor Marshall.

“If anyone says, I love God, and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.” “Whoever loves his brother abides in the light, and in him there is no cause for stumbling.” 1 Jn 4:20, 1 Jn 2:10


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Wow, I just listened to the sermon (thanks for the 3AngelsTube link); it brought tears to my eyes! We have a real, fundamental, biblically literalistic and conservative President: praise God! I expect to see great things happen in our church. I’m already inspired to do more, much more for God.


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Dr. Mills comment was very appropriate. ^^

Geanna, you seem to be attempting to exhort and preach greater faithfulness to God and righteousness in action.

OK, perhaps some speak too strongly at times on this forum. But, doesn’t it seem that you are trying to take the spec out of your brothers eye when you have a beam in yours?

Here is why I say that. Perhaps there are some here that are critical. But how does God view *you* ???

While some here might be too critical at times (possibly), God says that *you* are subscribing to and encouraging “the worst kind of infidelity.” See The Spirit of Prophecy Folume One, page 86.

While you believe and encourage others to believe “the worst kind of infidelity,” can you expect to be saved??

God has spoken. Woudln’t you do well to tremble?? You are making light of *the worst kind of infidelity.*


Creationist students find little support from LSU
Bob, it’s clear to all open-minded readers that your reasoning is solid, rational, scientific — the posts of Geanna and Lorelei are an unfortunate [edit]. Thank you for consistently, patiently helping them to see their errors.