Comment on Northern California Conference Votes to Act Independent of the General Conference by Nic Samojluk.
S. Heisey: To create a doctrine where there is no direct instruction appears to be ADDING to the Holy Scriptures.
This reminds me of the following incident. John and James complained that someone who was not a disciple was performing miracles in Jesus’ name. Notice how Jesus responded to this departure from accepted policy:
“Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us. But Jesus said, “Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me.” [Mark 9:38-39]
Some unions have slightly departed from the traditional manner in carrying the Gospel forward, and the church has reacted by producing a plethora of documents and wasted millions of dollars in order to forbid what is nowhere forbidden in Scripture. We would be wise, I believe, in stopping this nonsense.
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Henry C Hills: Paul prohibits women from speaking in public (1 Corinthians 14:34-35) as well as stating that a man is to be a bishop and the husband of one wife. Is it rightly dividing the word to allow women to speak in Church against Paul’s counsel and to be dogmatic about adhering to his counsel regarding the bishop having to be a man? That lack of consistency is confusion, it is not of God.
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Emergence and the Origin of Life?
Thanks, Sean, for your excellent response!
Describing emergence as a creative force is an attempt at crediting nature for what God does or has done in the past. Trying to negate the evidence of design in nature is the epitome of foolishness. This is the result of insisting in the use of the so called methodological naturalism, which precludes any credit to a Creator.
I can understand why those who prefer to ignore a Creator would resort to such extreme lack of common sense, but I can’t figure out why those who by their membership in a Christian organization would waste their time with such nonsense.
Why would a believer in a Creator invest so much time in pretending that nature and the laws of nature could be explained without the intervention of a Creator or a Designer?
Christian scientists already have the answer to the question of intelligent design. Why pretending that they don’t?
@Sean: “She writes, “I would not advise that anyone should make a practice of gathering up tithe money.” …”
—I am not gathering up tithe money. I am diverting them to ministries that teach the full Gospel of Jesus Christ, including the Good News that the unborn are entitled to life as you and me are, and that the fundamental doctrine of creation is the only credible explanation for origins.
I don’t want my tithes to be used for the support of the teaching of evolution as the best explanation for origins nor the honoring of men like Edward Allred, the most infamous abortionists in California.
@Sean: “We do not have such a prophet among us at the present time.”
—True! But we have what is described in Joel 1:28. Young and old men and women having dreams from heaven—which includes you and me.
@Sean: “Again, I submit to you that if one wishes to call himself part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church that it would be wrong of one to withhold tithes and/or offerings from the organized church.”
—I have no doubt that, if Ellen were alive today, she would do what I am doing. .
I am following Ellen White example on this. My reason is double: The teaching of evolution as fact at LSU, and the violation of the Sixth Commandment in our Adventist hospitals. Read the following:
“And where I see workers in this cause that have been true and loyal to the work, who are left to suffer, it is my duty to speak in their behalf. If this does not move the brethren to help them, then I must help them, even if I am obliged to use a portion of my tithe in doing so.’ …
“In many instances her requests have been responded to, and the needed help given. But in some cases the lack of funds and the absence of appreciation of the worthiness and the necessities have left the needy workers without help, and have left her to face the burden. Then she has said to me or to the bookkeeper, ‘Send help as soon as you can, and if necessary take it from my tithe.’ In many cases we found it possible to respond to her requests by gifts from her personal funds, and in some cases a portion of her tithe has been used. …
“Some cases have been kept before me for years, and I have supplied their needs from the tithe, as God has instructed me to do. And if any person shall say to me, Sister White, will you appropriate my tithe where you know it is most needed, I shall say Yes, I will; and I have done so.
“But for years there have now and then been persons who have lost confidence in the appropriation of the tithe, who have placed their tithe in my hands and said that if I did not take it they would themselves appropriate it to the families of the most needy ministers they could find. I have taken the money, given a receipt for it, and told them how it was appropriated.
http://www.whiteestate.org/issues/Tithe-H&U.html#Ellen G. White and the Tithe
The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
Sean, I have a double reason for diverting my financial contributions to independent ministries: The General Conference is contributing millions of dollars to Adventist education. This includes LSU, which teaches evolution as the best explanation for origins. I cannot in good conscience support this! My other reason is our SDA participation in the killing of innocent unborn babies. The day the GC stops these two evil practices, I will channel again my funds through the regular channels of the church.
The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
@Shane: “What do the majority of SDAs in S CA believe regarding the topic of origins?”
—If we look at the last constituency voting, then the situation might appear to be rather grim! Didn’t they vote to diminish the influence of the GC over LSU?
@Shane: “Yes, she said that our church would appear as “about to fall”….”
—Yes, but she also warned that we were in danger of becoming “a sister to Babylon.”
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