@Bill Sorenesen, Your comments about the general apathy of SDA …

Comment on Michigan Conference vs. LSU – Right Wing Politics or Truth in Advertising? by Holly Pham.

@Bill Sorenesen, Your comments about the general apathy of SDA members is also on target.

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Michigan Conference vs. LSU – Right Wing Politics or Truth in Advertising?

Deliss&#032Charo: You guys might be interested in this article published on ADvindicate:http://advindicate.com/?p=1172

This is true and accurate. I contacted the State of California about this and received an two emails confirming this fact.

T. Joe Willey, over on Spectrum, first noted this, as he has done some research into this. (He is, BTW, and LSU supporter).

Shane and Sean–can we do some more research into this matter? La Sierra will not give any information, since I have already contacted them about this, and gotten no response.

There are numerous buildings on the La Sierra campus which have recieved State funds, and according to the law, cannot be used for any religious teachings. How many buildings? Does anyone have an answer?


Michigan Conference vs. LSU – Right Wing Politics or Truth in Advertising?

BobRyan: Now and then Erv will contribute something of substance to the discussion.wait for it….it looks like it may take him a bit longer these days.in Christ,Bob

You’re so correct, Bob. Dr. Taylor doesn’t like to engage in any back-and-forth discussion, as we we see here on ET, but only wants to be able to run in–make a few vague comments (or insults to ET) and run away.

Dr. Taylor has not seemed to have answered any of the questions I have asked him in the past, or those of most others. He seems to have a lot to say over on Adventist Today, mostly attacking the SDA Church and Ellen White, both for being too old fashioned, conservative, and bible-based, instead of based on secular humanism, which Dr. Taylor seems to love.


Michigan Conference vs. LSU – Right Wing Politics or Truth in Advertising?

jdoe:
@Holly Pham:

Absolutely, Holly.I don’t doubt Dr. Taylors’ sincerity, but it does give me pause when someone answers that they are “not sure” if they believe the Bible or not.

I have always appreciated your comments on this website very much.And for that matter, Dr. Taylors’ comments, also, as he continues to make the contrast between SDAs and “in name only ‘SDAs'” all the more clear.

Don’t worry, Erv… if God can open my eyes to His truth (which I believe He has),He can also show you the truth someday (if you’re willing to listen).

I’ll be praying for you.

Not really believing in the Bible, Spirit of Prophecy, or other SDA beliefs is very common, not only from Dr. Taylor, but from many so-called “religious scholars” at LLU and La Sierra, as well as some at other places. You will find some of this actually broadcasted on LLBN TV. [edit]


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NCSE Report: Adventist Education in the Midst of a Sea of Science

Shayne:
Why do accrediting bodies have the right to force religious universities to teach what they demand they teach? Is it not a violation of religious freedom to demand that evolution exist as the only exclusive worldview? Why have we given scientists the role of Papel See?

La Sierra is under no demand to teach “evolution as fact” as many other colleges and universities, SDA and non-SDA teach “about evolution” but do not teach it as factual. La Sierra WANTS to teach evolution as fact, and will do anything it can to keep on keeping on teaching it!


La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond

David&#032Read: @Sean Pitman: There is certainly documentation somewhere of what the remainder of the bond funds was spent on. I imagine that the University was required by the bond trustee to document the capital projects the money was used on (because the funds could not be used for salaries or ordinary current operation expenses). So this is probably a public document that can be obtained through the freedom of information act.Also, I imagine that this information has been made available to the Board of Trustees and/or constituents, so if you have any contacts in those bodies, ask for the information.Keep digging, because you or Shane will find this information somewhere.

Dave, I agree with you completely. We need to have this investigated by somebody or some SDA group, preferably the GC. But, I do not think anyone there will step up to do it. So, we do need Shane, Sean, or someone.


La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond

Charles: the

Charles, I agree with you. But, this type of reasoning is very common among liberals. This past Sabbath on LLBN, John Jones and Ivan Blazen tried to convince Carolyn Thompson that sin is “relative” meaning that something may be a sin to one person, but not to another.

She questioned them, and offered examples, and they stuck to this idea.


Dr. Ariel Roth’s Creation Lectures for Teachers

ken:
That is why I remain open to scientific investigation of the concept of Intelligent Design. In fact, as many of you know, I have advocated for and agreed to support a Chair in Intelligent Design at any Adventist university. Strangely, not a single person has taken me up on the idea. Why?

Your agnostic friend
Ken

Ken, No “Chair of Intellegent Design” needs to be started, since our whole philosophy is of Intellegent Creationism. Nobody has taken you up on it because it is not needed. We need to have our SDA institutions supporting all of our beliefs, not just one “Chair”.


Changing the Wording of Adventist Fundamental Belief #6 on Creation

Bill&#032Taylor:
By faith you believe in creation and by faith you believe in evolution!!What do you want to place your faith in God or Man?

You are completely correct. Who are we to believe? God? Man’s “wisdom?” Liberals and progressives believe in human wisdom over what God has said.

We see that at La Sierra, very prominently, and they are PROUD of it!