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Susie, Sam Pipim explains this question well in his book, “Receiving the Word” pp. 25-26. Those like Ratzlaff usually leave the Church,or are forced out (like Desmond Ford) and then attack it externally. Those who are liberals and who want to make the Church more worldly (more secular humanism) usually want to stay IN the Church, while criticizing it and attacking it from inside.

Witness those at Adventist Today and Spectrum. Most are attending SDA churches and may be teaching SS lessons or teaching in our schools. A number are denominational employees! They want to stay IN the SDA Church because they want to “change” it into a more “inclusive” and wider spectrum group.

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LSU’s Board targets three of its members
MLB, That Oberg and Wisbey are “partners in crime” is easy to see from Oberg’s “interview” which was no more than a propaganda piece for LSU.

BTW, was Dan Smith “too conservative” for the liberals at LSU? Just wondering why they would give him the boot!


LSU’s Board targets three of its members

Yes, I understand that. The high standards Iwas referring to is our doctrines.  

Yes, Una, you are correct. Our SDA Church does have high standards which President Wilson appears to also follow. However, the liberals fear Wilson because of that. They are afraid he will actually stand up for Truth and support our biblical beliefs.

Liberals, since they follow secular, humanistic standards more than God’s Truth, are boiling mad and angry (please see many posts on AT and Spectrum) that our Church will become more “retrograde” and the antiquated backwaters, such as some on this website, will prevail.

Many liberals, such as Ryan Bell, pastor of the Hollywood SDA Church, think that their best chance of taking over the Church is for all the “conservatives” (fundamentalists) to either retire or die off. Since this hasn’t happened yet, the liberals are getting restless!


LSU’s Board targets three of its members

Yes Una and look what is Happening down under re Des Ford ..So Sad  

The “high standard” that was spoken of is NOT found in many places in the Pacific Union Conference. We have many leaders and church members who have a very LOW standard when it comes to believing God’s Word.


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My Goal for La Sierra University

The reason the LaSierra situation has gone uncorrected so long is that most of our administrators have exactly the sort of political instincts that Dan Jackson has. They are politicians and consensus builders; they want to keep the peace and make the trains run on time. But the circumstances call for men of principle, hard men who are willing to stand for the right “though the heavens fall,” i.e., regardless who is offended and loudly complains.

Dave, I agree with you. Jackson’s trying to play on “both teams” is not going to go well for him.

Unfortunately, politics is the “SOP” of many of our SDA officials, Jackson being just one. “Political instincts” are the rule, instead of actually doing what is “right” according to what we know in God’s Word.


Bradley, Beach and Kaatz retain attorney

Shane Hilde: Think big fish: LSU or the Seventh-day Adventist Church.Graham might not have followed procedure with these men, but I don’t know what the procedure is. I’ve read what the process is in the faculty handbook, but I don’t know if that applies to administrative positions which are at will employees. If it does apply to them, then it appears the process was not followed.

Trustees book says, in 6,9,F, that the Trustes may “discontinue” virtually anyone working at the university.

Does that mean to “fire” or to “force their resignation? Seems like it does.


My Goal for La Sierra University

GMF: If what has been reported about Jackson is correct it is very troubling. Also, one can only wonder why he was selected as the NAD President.I’ve seen a thing or two which made me wonder about Jackson but this report, if true, has to be the worst. May the Good Lord help us!

Jackson was selected to replace Don Schneider, who was also very “passive” in his approach to this problem.

Besides telling Wisbey to “love Jesus” Jackson did virtually nothing.


My Goal for La Sierra University
Sean, Great summary and analysis of the current situation. Another good review of this matter is in the Jan-March 2011 Elders Journal. It also goes into the 2004 evaluation and recommendations, as you have quoted.


Bradley, Beach and Kaatz retain attorney
How about a “class action” suit against anyone and everyone who has heard the tape or has heard OF the tape?