I never attended La Sierra University… In any case, how is …

Comment on Dr. Dan Stock’s Testimony before the Mt. Vernon School Board by Sean Pitman.

I never attended La Sierra University…

In any case, how is it helpful to tell me that I’m basically “out to lunch” without explaining how I’m out to lunch?

Look, I’m a huge fan of the Adventist Health Message. It’s a wonderful way to improve one’s overall health and one’s immune system. However, it’s just not enough, sometimes, to effectively fight off all types of infections – especially as a person gets older. Even Ellen White, through whom we were given the Adventist Health Message, promoted the use of the smallpox vaccine for her son, her staff, and even took it herself during an outbreak in her day. She promoted the use of quinine to fight against malaria where malaria was prevalent. She promoted the use of blood transfusions to save lives and even underwent radiation therapy to treat a skin lesion on her face.

The fact is that I’ve had around a dozen family friends die from COVID-19 – Adventist friends who were living according to the Adventist Health Message. I’ve even had a number of very healthy young vegan Adventist friends (all less than 50 years old) end up in MICU for weeks at a time with blood clots throughout their bodies, some ending up with permanent damage to their bodies. They almost died despite their extremely healthy lifestyle. Overall, about 30% of people infected with COVID-19 end up with some kind of long-term injury. In comparison, the odds are strong that the mRNA vaccines would have prevented all of these tragedies that were suffered by my friends.

Have you been to a hospital MICU lately? Have you seen people dying of COVID-19 despite the heroic efforts of the nurses and doctors trying to save them? It’s not an easy way to go…

What, then, do you have in mind that would work better? – that would work better than a combination of the Adventist Health Message working together with the mRNA vaccines to present the best possible chance for a person to defeat COVID-19 and reduce its spread to others?

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Dr. Dan Stock’s Testimony before the Mt. Vernon School Board
When someone tells you what the actual numbers are, it doesn’t matter one lick what adjectives they use to describe those numbers. There’s just no deception going on here – unless you’re an absolute idiot. The very same number might mean different emotional things to different people. So, for you to say that the CDC is “exaggerating” things for the purpose of “fear-mongering” is absolute nonsense. They gave you the actual numbers man. You can decide for yourself if a childhood death rate of 0.06% is “huge” or not. For me, the death of even one child is “huge” – particularly if that child happened to be my child.

Anyway, if this is the best you’ve got, please, you’re wasting my time.


Dr. Dan Stock’s Testimony before the Mt. Vernon School Board
Oh please. You’re just being ridiculous at this point. Why waste my time like this?

The comment of the CDC director that 400 of 600,000 total deaths due to COVID-19 (0.06%) were children dying of COVID-19 – is an accurate comment! Hello! Sure, it is rare for a child to die of COVID-19, but it’s not like it never happens. It does happen! And, every single time it happens, it’s a tragedy.

Now, does this mean that it’s a clear-cut decision to vaccinate children under 12? No. That’s not a clear-cut decision given this information alone. One must determine his/her own risk/reward ratio here. For me, personally, I’m leaning toward vaccinating my own 12- and 10-year-old boys because of the long-term effects for many more children who get infected by COVID-19 but don’t die.

Anyway, if anyone is exaggerating and “flying off the handle” here, I’m sorry, but it’s you… not the CDC.


Dr. Dan Stock’s Testimony before the Mt. Vernon School Board
You wrote:

Now we are getting somewhere.

Thank you for finally conceding that childhood covid deaths are rare…thus the fear-mongering of such for the last year was just that. Although the CDC, media and government health experts continue to say otherwise…you at least have conceded rare is in fact rare and for the time being appear to disagree with the CDC.

I’ve always said that childhood COVID deaths are rare – as has the CDC, the mainstream media, and government health experts. There simply is no disagreement on this point. Where you came up with this claim of yours, I have no idea?

For example, here’s a comment from CDC article from January 2021 noting that the COVID-19 death rate in children is very rare:

“Among cases reviewed, data were available for 41.9%, 8.9%, and 49.1% of cases for hospitalizations, intensive care unit (ICU) admissions, and deaths, respectively. Among children, adolescents, and young adults with available data for these outcomes, 30,229 (2.5%) were hospitalized, 1,973 (0.8%) required ICU admission, and 654 (<0.1%) died."

So, I have no idea where you are getting your notions or accusations of “incompetence”? While I may not always agree with the conclusions of the CDC, FDA, or other government health agencies, they are by no means nearly as guilty of incompetence as you make them out to be. You, on the other hand, don’t seem to have a clue what you’re talking about here.

As far as the “logic” of your other claims, well, they’re pretty much all in the same boat as far as I can tell…


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