pauluc: And yet the response according to you to …

Comment on Avondale College Arguing in Favor of Darwinian Evolution? by Bob Helm.

pauluc:

And yet the response according to you to that transgression of man is that He conferred death and suffering not just on the culpible pair and mankind but on all life on earth.Do you believe in an omnipotent God or not?Even our Justice system hold the perpetrator responsible and does not kill all the family members for the evil of one man.Why should God be less just than our fallible system?

After reading your statement over again, I realized that I did not answer it as fully as I should have – because I see you are dealing with animal death as well. Animals are not intelligent enough to be held morally accountable, so they are not sinners, even if they sometimes behave in vicious ways. And I do not believe that God has punished animals for human sin. But when humans did sin, this entire world lost its connection with the Life Giver and fell behind enemy lines. As a result, humans and animals alike began to suffer degeneracy and death. In the case of the animals, this was not a punishment. It was simply a consequence of the entire world losing connection with God. I don’t know enough of the fine details of what occurred to explain anything more about it, so I will leave it at that.

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