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Comment on Are mRNA Vaccines for COVID-19 helpful or harmful? by Sean Pitman.

I know that you, as a retired carpenter without any medical training or background, might not realize this given what you’re reading on conspiracy theory websites, but neither of the mRNA vaccines, produced by Pfizer or Moderna, have fetal tissue or any other tissue from any living thing in them. They were not produced with the use of living cells or tissue of any kind, but were entirely synthetically produced. They also contain no preservatives such as polyethylene glycol, mercury, or aluminum. Also, the mRNA does not change the human DNA or genetics at all (as explained in my article above).

I’ve studied them and viewed reports from scientists and I’m convinced these Covid-19 vaccines are 0% effective and over 100% dangerous–no effective vaccine can ever be made for any virus that has not been isolated, and this one has not been isolated and studied properly–scientists created something “similar” to SARS-CoV-2 and worked from that, however, Covid-19 has not been isolated from a host.

This isn’t true either. We know the genetic sequence, all the proteins, and structure for the COVID-19 virus. It has also been grown in cell culture (Link):

    “One important way that CDC has supported global efforts to study and learn about SARS-CoV-2 in the laboratory was by growing the virus in cell culture and ensuring that it was widely available. Researchers in the scientific and medical community can use virus obtained from this work in their studies.”

Now, just in case you didn’t know, genetic sequencing (determining a DNA or an RNA sequence for a new or unknown virus or other organisms) isn’t done via PCR alone. Originally, it was done by what is called Sanger Sequencing (after Fred Sanger, the British biochemist who, with his colleagues, first developed a way to determine the sequence of unknown genetic strands in 1977).

Consider also the following diagrams for more modern methods of genetic sequencing:

Here’s another diagram describing two different methods of sequencing:

As far as Koch’s Postulate:

Consider the following commentary when it comes to viral infections and diseases such as COVID-19: Link

I’m convinced that vaccines are the most horrific drug ever perpetuated on mankind.

That’s because you don’t understand them and have read a lot of misinformation about them from conspiracy websites that are simply lying to you.

Sean, why not follow the Adventist health message instead of promoting something that can kill and injure God’s people and others? Sure, Ellen White took the smallpox vax, but I’m still looking into that.

Ellen White took the smallpox vaccine, as did her son, and she recommended it to her companions as well. She did this even though she knew that vaccines were risky (much more risky in her day as compared to modern vaccines). Yet, despite what she knew about the risks of vaccines in her day (her own son had been sicked by a vaccine prior to this – Link), she took and promoted the taking of the smallpox vaccine. Why? Because, the known risks of the vaccine were a whole lot less than the known risks of getting exposed to the smallpox virus. That’s why. The same thing is true today. The risks of the mRNA vaccines are a whole lot less than the known risks of being exposed to the live COVID-19 virus. Here’s what Ellen White’s personal secretary for 13 years, D. E. Robinson, wrote about Mrs. White taking the smallpox vaccine:

“You will be interested to know, however, that at a time when there was an epidemic of smallpox in the vicinity, she herself was vaccinated and urged her helpers, those connected with her, to be vaccinated. In taking this step Sister White recognized the fact that it has been proven that vaccination either renders one immune from smallpox or greatly lightens its effects if one does come down with it. She also recognized the danger of their exposing others if they failed to take this precaution.”- Signed D. E. Robinson, 2 SM 303.5 – 2SM 303.6

Yet, you go on to argue:

As for the fakedemic, based upon the massive numbers of false/positives from the PCR test that cannot diagnose any virus, lawsuits are happening, praise God:

This pandemic isn’t fake. It is real and it is devastating. Hospitals around the country are being overwhelmed by people sicked with the COVID-19 virus and thousands are being killed by it on a daily basis. And, many of those who aren’t killed have long-term symptoms, some of which are likely to be permanent.

I know this because I’ve seen it firsthand. I’ve had friends and family sickened by this pandemic and have had family friends die of this. My brother-in-law, the well-known and well-respected pulmonologist Dr. Roger Seheult, personally sees dozens of people die every week from this pandemic. You just don’t understand because you haven’t seen it close up and personal like we have.

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Just because the effectiveness of vaccines may wane over time doesn’t mean that they aren’t working. They are working, very well. The vast majority of those who are being hospitalized right now with severe COVID-19 infections are the unvaccinated – by a ratio of more than 10:1 over the vaccinated.

Here’s an explanation from Shane Crotty, Ph.D. (Immune system and vaccine scientist. Professor, La Jolla Institute for Immunology (LJI), a non-profit research institute): Link


Are mRNA Vaccines for COVID-19 helpful or harmful?

As of June 11, 2021, approximately 296 million doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines had been administered in the United States, with 52 million administered to persons aged 12–29 years; of these, 30 million were first and 22 million were second doses. Within the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) (4), the national vaccine safety passive monitoring system, 1,226 reports of myocarditis after mRNA vaccination were received during December 29, 2020–June 11, 2021. Among persons with reported myocarditis after mRNA vaccination, the median age was 26 years (range = 12–94 years), with median symptom onset interval of 3 days after vaccination (range = 0–179). Among 1,194 reports for which patient age was known, 687 were among persons aged <30 years and 507 were among persons aged ≥30 years; of 1,212 with sex reported, 923 were male, and 289 were female.§§ Among 1,094 patients with number of vaccine doses received reported, 76% occurred after receipt of dose 2 of mRNA vaccine; cases were reported after both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines. Informed by early reports, CDC prioritized rapid review of myocarditis in persons aged <30 years reported during May 1–June 11, 2021; the 484 patient records in this subset were evaluated by physicians at CDC, and several reports were also reviewed with Clinical Immunization Safety Assessment Project investigators,¶¶ including cardiologists. At the time of this report, 323 of these 484 cases were determined to meet criteria in CDC’s case definitions for myocarditis, pericarditis, or myopericarditis by provider interview or medical record review (Table 1). The median age of the 323 patients meeting CDC’s case definitions was 19 years (range = 12−29 years); 291 were male, and 32 were female. The median interval from vaccination to symptom onset was 2 days (range = 0−40 days); 92% of patients experienced onset of symptoms within 7 days of vaccination. Of the 323 persons meeting CDC’s case definitions, 309 (96%) were hospitalized. Acute clinical courses were generally mild; among 304 hospitalized patients with known clinical outcomes, 95% had been discharged at time of review, and none had died. Treatment data in VAERS are preliminary and incomplete; however, many patients have experienced resolution of symptoms with conservative treatment, such as receipt of nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drugs. Follow-up is ongoing to identify and understand longer-term outcomes after myocarditis occurring after COVID-19 vaccination. (Link)

In comparison, those who are infected with COVID-19 have a much higher rate of myocarditis as well as a much MUCH higher rate of long-term injuries and death. Up to a third of otherwise young healthy people, including athletes and even children, end up with myocarditis following even mild infections with COVID-19.


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