@ken: After all thy gentle sweet agnostic mincing And my bombastic …

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@ken:

After all thy gentle sweet agnostic mincing
And my bombastic vocabularic fencing,
Let us sooth ourselves again to pentameter iambic
Again as friends together lie the lion and the lambic.

Wesley Kime Also Commented

A “Christian Agnostic”?
@Ken: – Yours of November 29, 10:39 pm, this thread: “I think Hawking’s view would be that Adventism is a faith construct trying to justify itself with pseudo science. … [sans any] accord with the observable laws of empirical science. … Many Adventists recognize the obvious … Others see that old ideas of Adventism must be… adapted… to the realities of sound science or it will become anachronistic mythology (like the Greek gods). Others … cherry-picked attacks on evolution, etc. to direct attention away from the subjectivity of creation science” (Where’s “disgruntled,” as in Hiram Edson?)

Forlorn, maybe a tad disgruntled, I’ve been sitting mulling your impersonation of Hawkings analyzing us Adventists. Then, on a roll, you took the microphone to present your 9-9-9 plan for rectifying our kind of cognitive kinkiness.

I can see, I disconsolately sob, that you, our special dear old agnostic friend, are so much more at home and at ease in Hawkings’s mind and bowels, with his kind of premises and vocabulary, his strokes and tropes, than ours (our less progressively premised minds, etc. etc., anyway). Oh, don’t think I don’t see your smitten look when that man is around — I can just feel the electricity, — and your toying way when we are alone! And, sob, we’ve been living together in the same blog for the last two whole years, sob, and we’ve all had such fun together. But, no, don’t leave, you can’t leave! I’ll make your favorite dish (rehash of Gilgamesh garnished with cherry-picked raspberries). Put on your favorite composer (Hendimyth)? Read you your favorite qualm Psalm? Write you a poem? (“Ode to Query”, “Let Me Count The Question Marks”) Oh, please, more question marks, more, more! ));-}>


A “Christian Agnostic”?
@Ken:

PREEMINENCE

There was a kindly old agnostic of Gilamesh
Who when asked which takes preeminence,
QUESTION
Or ANSWER,
Answered QUESTION, no question, dear friend Wes.


A “Christian Agnostic”?
@ken: ET call home.


Recent Comments by Wesley Kime

Dr. Walter Veith and the anti-vaccine arguments of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche
Informative and stimulating, but proceeding into more confusion. A veteran of Moderna vaccinations, I trust, hope, they are effective, at least until otherwise. The whole business, being part of End Times, is in the hands of God, not humans expert and as degreed as they may be.


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Brilliant, beautiful, and so right! Speaking of your presentation at LLU recently. Great to see you and your family (especially my namesake, Wes. God bless! WK


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@Bob Helm: Dr. Sanford is very familiar to most of us. He was invited to speak at LLU several years ago and I and a great many were privileged to hear him.


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Hats off yet again to Sean for pursuing this topic as a scientist should, no nonsense, and in it’s proper setting — as a revival of one of the ancient ideas recently upgraded as a desperate alternative to the increasingly compelling intelligent design data. I had occasion to review panspermia a few years ago and as is my wont I found it more amusing than scientific. If you would like what was intended to be a satirical response to panspermia and other related curiosities you could check out: http://www.iessaythere.com/black-hole-humor.html
Meantime, Sean’s article is of far more cogent worth.


The Sabbath and the Covenants (Old vs. New)
As he has done on this site many times, Sean in his line-by-line-item response to C. White (not EG or EB) has, to my mind, clearly enunciated the issue and resolution.

When all the hermeneutics, quoting, and arguing and inordinately judgmental riposte are over, it comes down, as I understand it, to two things: 1) Whether the 7th day Sabbath (whether enunciated in the famous 10 commandments or otherwise) is still valid, and 2) Does the grace obtained by the vicarious sacrifice by the shedding of Christ’s blood or other divine process too deep for us to understand in this life, cover every sin automatically and without ado, altogether passively on our part, or is it only on condition that we first totally and deeply accept it? Other details always hassled forever are distractions.

I accept that I must accept it, wholly, actively, even with agony, with my whole being.