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Bill Sorensen: People leave “the church” when the church presents the true cross of scripture. And people don’t want to “bear the cross” and find a reason not to.Unbelievers receive massive doses of affirmation by other unbelievers who affirm a crossless religion that they claim is supported by the bible. In the end, most people are deceived because they want to be.By the way, nice to see you comment here Hubb. Hope all is well with you and your family.Bill Sorensen

You’re right on target again Bill! Sean’s lengthy post about Ken Ham’s book points out that most “reasons” involve some else’s “fault” or problem–“too boring” “legalism” “self-righteous” “hypocrisy” “too political” etc. Even the “too far to drive” is a total copout.

No one (or at least very few) seemingly stated, “Boy, I just thought it was going to be too tough to live a Christian life!” Instead, they use the loaded word “legalism” both blaming someone else and, in the process, avoiding having to state the reason in a personal way, taking responsibility for their choice.

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Am I mistaken, and we do believe in pre-sin death of non-human life?Do Adventists who believe in Evolution have a different view of the origin of sin?to get noticed: @SeanPittmanSean Pittman

J. Knight. I agree with you. However, I think you will find it difficult to “pin down” where sin happened with any evolutionist, SDA or not.

Most non-SDA’s simply will say “sin” is a manmade concept which has nothing to to with “God.”

The SDA’s? Well, how about some, or even one, coming on here to explain how “sin” got here.


A big reason why so many people are leaving the church

Shane Hilde: Agreed. Evolution has little to do with becoming a doctor, or pretty much any discipline that would utilize biology. Unless of course your dealing with a history oriented class dealing with origins.

Evolution has absolutely nothing to do with becoming a physician or practicing medicine. I’ve never,ever been asked any question about evolution in any exam, either in medical school, during residency, or on the Internal Medicine Board exam.

How about you Sean? Is Pathology based on evolution?


A big reason why so many people are leaving the church
If anyone wants to find out really why so many young people are leaving the SDA Church, please check out John Lomacang’s series on 3ABN “Pillars of Truth.”

Pastor Lomacang is telling it like it is, and he is not afraid of naming names and showing what’s really wrong with the progressive’s theory of dumping our SDA beliefs and infiltrating secular humanism into our schools, churches and other institutions.


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Dave, I agree with you. Jackson’s trying to play on “both teams” is not going to go well for him.

Unfortunately, politics is the “SOP” of many of our SDA officials, Jackson being just one. “Political instincts” are the rule, instead of actually doing what is “right” according to what we know in God’s Word.


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Does that mean to “fire” or to “force their resignation? Seems like it does.