When Jesus was asked by some guy, who supposedly really …

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When Jesus was asked by some guy, who supposedly really wanted to know, how he could “inherit eternal life” (which I assume is why many people want to join, stay in, or participate in the churches activities) Jesus told him, with a very simple answer.

He didn’t “like” the answer because he thought he had something else more important and didn’t want to “trade.”

Jesus didn’t try to “coddle” him or plead with him to “reconsider” or even get into a discussion about who was right or wrong.

No “negotiations” were done. Jesus evidently didn’t try to “rephrase” his answer to make it less offensive.

I have been an SDA for over 42 years,and I know many who have “left” the Church. Most left because it was simply “too tough” to live in today’s world, with all its enjoyments and really live a truly Christian life. These types of people are NOT likely to “tell it like it is” but give an answer which relieves them of the responsibility of “owning up” to their decision.

You hear some of these excuses here on this website: “So and so wasn’t nice enough to me. “Pastor Smith did something wrong.” “The Church “wasted” some of my hard earned money on something I didn’t want” Etc. Etc. Etc’

No “survey” is going to give you a truly honest answer as to why people leave any Church. The human tendency is to blame somebody else.

How many that left said, “I just got taken in and caught up in the secular world and decided I liked that better?”

Or, “I found a different Church that didn’t ask me to really believe or do anything, except just come to church whenever I felt like it, clap my hands, smile, and then go home.”

Surveys have the weakness of taking people at their word, which is problematic when dealing with “leaving the Church.”

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J. Knight. I agree with you. However, I think you will find it difficult to “pin down” where sin happened with any evolutionist, SDA or not.

Most non-SDA’s simply will say “sin” is a manmade concept which has nothing to to with “God.”

The SDA’s? Well, how about some, or even one, coming on here to explain how “sin” got here.


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Shane Hilde: Agreed. Evolution has little to do with becoming a doctor, or pretty much any discipline that would utilize biology. Unless of course your dealing with a history oriented class dealing with origins.

Evolution has absolutely nothing to do with becoming a physician or practicing medicine. I’ve never,ever been asked any question about evolution in any exam, either in medical school, during residency, or on the Internal Medicine Board exam.

How about you Sean? Is Pathology based on evolution?


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If anyone wants to find out really why so many young people are leaving the SDA Church, please check out John Lomacang’s series on 3ABN “Pillars of Truth.”

Pastor Lomacang is telling it like it is, and he is not afraid of naming names and showing what’s really wrong with the progressive’s theory of dumping our SDA beliefs and infiltrating secular humanism into our schools, churches and other institutions.


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