Comment on Dr. Ervin Taylor: ‘A truly heroic crusade’ by Faith.
You know what? You people can argue back and forth about this until the cows come home and it is very unlikely that anyone will be convinced that he is wrong. The same old people are posting over and over again and no one is changing their tune one iota. You are making this all so much more difficult than it has to be.
You people are all educated so why do you find it so difficult to accept what is plainly written in God’s Word? The Bible plainly states that God made the earth, the sea, and all that in them is. Then, His messenger, under His inspiration, plainly states in Ministry of Healing pp 414-415:
“In the creation of the earth, God was not indebted to pre-existing matter. “He spake, and it was; . . . He commanded, and it stood fast.” Psalm 33:9. All things, material or spiritual, stood up before the Lord Jehovah at His voice and were created for His own purpose. The heavens and all
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the host of them, the earth and all things therein, came into existence by the breath of His mouth.”
“The great Jehovah had laid the foundations of the earth; He had dressed the whole world in the garb of beauty, and had filled it with things useful to man; He had created all the wonders of the land and of the sea. In six days the great work of creation had been accomplished. And God ‘rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made.” Patriarchs and Prophets p 47
This is where we have to have that child-like faith that Jesus spoke of when He said Except ye be as a little child ye shall not enter into the kingdom of God. These passages are plain enough to me. God created everything–even the foundations–in six days. Period, no question marks.
Please note the fact that Creation and the Sabbath are inextricably interwined. Attacking Creation means you are attacking the Sabbath as well. As any SDA knows, belief in the Seventh-day Sabbath is the dividing line between the saved and the lost. Why? Because acceptance of the Sabbath (the remembrance of Creation) means you accept God as your Creator and give Him your worship as such.
Don’t you see? Satan rebelled because he wasn’t included in the creation of this earth. And he is trying to spread his poison throughout the human family to rob God of His people. This is so plain. Satan came up with evolution to ruin what God had begun with Creation and to take away the glory from Him as the Creator. It is a result of Satan’s jealousy. When you continue to teach evolution you are playing right into his hands. You cannot work for Satan and deny God as your Creator and be in God’s church or be saved to live eternally with those who willingly worship God as their Creator. It is like trying to mix oil and water.
Science, with all its “scholarly” writings is not going to save you or those you unfortunately indoctinate with the bogus theory of evolution. It is so sad–the Creator and King of the Universe stoops to explain to you where you came from and how it was all brought about and you refuse to believe it in favour of the writings of mere created human beings who make false assertions. But because these people call themselves scientists and belittle all who don’t believe them as ignorant and gullible, many people, bending over backwards to prove themselves to be just the opposite to what they have been accused to be, actually become what they were accused of being. You have to be ignorant and gullible to believe the evolutionary theory.
You guys can just go on playing with your little theories if you like. I don’t need any further proof that God made the earth and all in it. You have to be a fool to believe that the universe operates on its own. God supports and sustains all living things; He guides the planets in their orbits; He is involved in the lives of all human beings, whether or not they want to acknowledge Him.
Erv Taylor would deprive his granddaughter of a knowledge of her Creator? How sad. He will come to bitterly regret it. As he will bitterly regret it if he does not turn from evolution and embrace creation and His Creator. And he is not the only one. Anyone involved in this controversy has the same prospect before them. When education separates you from your Creator it is a curse and not a blessing, for it is not true education but Satan’s specious couterfeit.
Please, please…let’s put this foolishness behind us…for evolution is foolishness. If the professors refuse to embrace all SDA beliefs they should not be allowed to teach in our institutions. Teachers have a unique position of trust in that they shape the thinking of their students. These professors should fear to teach that which contradicts God and the Bible. The penalty will be fearsome when our Creator appears in the clouds to take His people home to heaven with Him.
I will continue to keep this matter in my prayers.
Faith
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Changing the Wording of Adventist Fundamental Belief #6 on Creation
And you are correct, Sean, PK must consider where his influence is going–for God or against Him.
Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
Mr Taylor,
After reading your comment above, I must say PK isn’t the only one in that boat.I would make some comment as to how I really feel about you, but I know Sean will only delete it and you won’t benefit from my insight anyway–seeing as Sean is more concerned about other people’s feelings than you seem to be.
How you have the nerve to come to this website and call us all a bunch of morons (which is really what you are doing) is beyond me. You and your cronies are the ones drowning in error. Anyone who dares to accept man’s opinions over the Bible or SOP isn’t to be trusted to define truth for anyone.
Too straight-forward in my comment? Trust me, I have restrained myself admirably. If you only knew….
Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
Further to my comment on skeptism and our professors, I’ve got to tell you that I found Prof Kent to be extremely annoying in his comments on EGW. He seems to think that she is an embarrassment to the church when she speaks on Science.
Personally I find people who dis her to be the embarrassment to the church. I really don’t see how they dare to contradict and mock God’s prophet. By doing this they undermine a lot of our church’s beliefs to outsiders as well as church members. God will hold them accountable for that.
Furthermore, David’s unpublished manuscript plus other books I have read on archaeology have reported skeletons of the type that EGW mentions. Also found were artifacts such as huge iron bedsteads made for and buried with kings of huge stature.
Just because you haven’t done your research, PK, don’t jump to the conclusion the evidence isn’t there. It’s there, all right, and you make yourself look a little foolish for not knowing about it.
Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
David Read said:
“Ellen White’s statements about larger antediluvian life forms are well attested with regard to many different types of flora and fauna. They’re not even controversial…
Hi David,
As you know, I took advantage of your kind offer and I read your manuscript as well as I purchased 3 of your books, one for me, one for my sisters, and one for the church library. It took me a week to finish the book, and I and my sisters are very impressed with it. My one sister calls it “one incredible book”. It has answered a lot of the questions we had on the subject of evolution vs creation science, and, yes, I believe we (you and I and my sisters) are on the same page in our beliefs. We have immensely enjoyed discussing the various aspects of the subject as we read. It makes perfect sense to us.
I still have a couple of questions–new ones will probably always keep popping up–but I would say you have covered the subject admirably. Thanks so much for this book.
I agree with Elder Wilson, this is something every Adventist should read. In my opinion it should be used as required reading for science courses. It is exactly the way I would want science courses in the universities to treat the Creation/evolution debate in the classroom. And if the professors at LSU and the other SDA institutions would do this we wouldn’t be constantly losing our young people and, for that matter, our professors, to skeptisism.
Thank God someone has the courage to publish the truth and expose error.
God Bless you, David.
Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
Hi Sean and Bill,
I am wondering if the difference of opinion here is due to varying definitions of the word ‘science’. As we all know there is true science and there is worldly psuedo-science.
If Bill’s understanding of ‘science’ in this case is actually worldly psuedo-science, then he is correct in not wanting any truth to be compromised with it.
From Sean’s post, I believe he is referring to true science, which is definitely part of our beliefs on origins and is well supported by the Bible and SOP, as Sean admirably demonstrated.
Not having seen the exhibit myself, I cannot comment on whether or not they are mixing psuedo-science into it. (Perhaps a few of you posters out there can see the exhibit and report back to us.) Knowing the general philosophy of SAU, I would be surprised if they did.
Their goal is “to provide scientific evidence that substantiates the Bible’s account of creation.” Sounds good to me.
They also say: “Religion and science don’t need to be at odds.” And that is true when you are referring to true science, which I believe they are.
However, I do understand Bill’s reaction in that these days when people use the word ‘science’ without qualification it so often means evolutionary pseudoscience, that we tend to be suspicious.
I think, Bill, that in this case we don’t need to worry. I believe SAU’s heart is in the right place and I am so glad that at least one of our institutions is willing to stand up and be counted on the side of Creation, even though they will probably draw much criticism from the ‘scientific’ community as well as from the TEs in their own church.
God bless them for their fidelity to Him. And may God strengthen them to meet the onslaught that is most likely to follow, is my prayer for them.
